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Islam will dominate!

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
301Ouncer I wouldn't be surprised if the fundamentalist Christians and Muslims join forces in the future. I really wouldn't. Once they see they can't beat secularism alone, who knows what they'll do? But I fear siding with Muslim fundamentalists will be a mistake they'll come to regret if they do achieve their desire.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
From my prespective christianity is also fake but I would never side with secularisim and its system against christianity.

Christianity is 100 times fold more human then secularisim even with all the crimes committed by past event is nothing in comparison to the outright onslought on mankind secularisim is doing right now.

We have an intellect and logical reasoning to know who is our friend and who is our enemy.

Yes but from a Muslim perspective, Christianity is simply outdated. But from a Chrsitian perspective, Islam rejects God (Jesus). I am sure that you know what it means to think that someone rejects God. You even dislike those who worship God differently to you (idolaters, pagans etc.).
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
To Islam all religions before it were Islamic, but then somehow got perverted. I find this notion arrogant and narrow-minded myself. Basically they take the teachers from the religions and call them prophets, while rejecting their teachings claiming the religions corrupted it, so what's the point of accepting them as a messager? Like Jesus for example, they don't accept Jesus' teachings because they say the Christians corrupted it, but they accept his was a prophet. So what message from him do they have?
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
I've even seen Zakir Naik say Krishna, Buddha, and Zoroaster were messengers of Allah, but Islam would say their messages have been perverted. So what message from these messengers do they have or accept?
 

Badran

Veteran Member
Premium Member
So what is this thread exactly about?

Is it a message to the world informing them that Islam will supposedly dominate?

If that's the case, then what is to be debated here?

Or is it just hatred against other religions?
 

301ouncer

Well-Known Member
Would a world dominated by Islam make the world a better place? Would it make people any better? The only thing the dominance of one group/religion can lead to is tyranny and dictatorship. I think that imposing a theocratic system upon people will only make things worse. Instead we should live in harmony, harmony, ohhh love :D

I would have no problem living under a christian state as long as its laws are derived from the true teachings of Jesus pbuh and not that of Paul's.

A better place?

I am sure a christian would agree with me that either he or me would love to live in each other's state rather then be faced daily with secular systems and its produce of fruits:

FOXNews.com - Father, 4 Sons Charged in Missouri Child Rape Case
 

301ouncer

Well-Known Member
Friend 301ouncer,


Sorry, having slow net speed could not watch the Video, however would like to know as o what aspect of life are you talking about will be dominated by muslims? Economical, political, religious, military, land mass, kindly clarify.
However, mostly hear that islam is a religion of *peace* which is not evident in their actions; so surely there needs a fundamental understanding of what they the word *peace* means.
Existence is eternal and follows its own laws and anything that goes up fast comes down fast. So the energy which will dominate will get subjugated equally in time, as is the laws of nature.

Love & rgds

Not sure how it will dominate. The secular financial system is already witnessing to the amazing Islamic shariah financial products and its great benefits. Daily products of islamic financial instruments are appealing to the secular investor. Only after the fire of secular capitalisim and it is products burned them to ashes.

Religion of Peace? Yes Peace as long as they do not cross the line. It is a good religion it stands up and defends itself against aggression and tyarany and occupations.
 
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301ouncer

Well-Known Member
Do you think having a theocratic simply would reduce crime?

Greatly. Yes. No more unheared of WMD prepetrated against the weak and the old.

How would a theocracy benefit me and other people? What about people who don't believe the religion promoted by said theocracy? Does theocracy help?

No one is forcing you to believe in our system. You can be as you are, a subject of the system. The system is there to protect you and your childeren and family of the evil from people that are all around you.

It is only then tranqulity and peace is established.
 
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301ouncer

Well-Known Member
So what is this thread exactly about?

Is it a message to the world informing them that Islam will supposedly dominate?

If that's the case, then what is to be debated here?

Or is it just hatred against other religions?

What is it to you? do I ask you what is your intention after every post or thread of yours? NO.

Take it easy when you talk to me.Ok Who do you think I am a bell boy?
 

xkatz

Well-Known Member
Greatly. Yes. No more unheared of WMD prepetrated against the weak and the old.

What is this supposed to even mean?

301ouncer said:
No one is forcing you to believe in our system. You can be as you are. The system is there to protect you and your children and family.

I wish that this was true but often times in a theocracy what you mention is not. For example, in Iran (which is a theocratic republic), Bahai cemeteries/graveyards are bulldozed, they also cannot attend college, and Sunnis cannot build a mosque in Tehran, and homosexuals are frequently hung. Are these the things people want?
 
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Badran

Veteran Member
Premium Member
What is it to you? do I ask you what is your intention after every post or thread of yours? NO.

Isn't this a thread for all people to participate in?

I'm making sure i understand exactly what are you debating here.

So what are we debating?
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Badran would you kindly answer my question about Islam in the thread: A Respectful Question about Islam? I'd appreciate your input.
 

301ouncer

Well-Known Member
What is this supposed to even mean?

Weapons of Mass Destructive Sex. Dwarfing the weak and the old. No one is speared.

I wish that this was true but often times in a theocracy what you mention is not. In countries like Iran, Bahais are discriminated just for their beliefs, Sunnis cannot build a mosque in Tehran, and homosexuals are frequently hung.

I believe you or Auto repeatedly mention Iran. If you mention Iran so much I will buy a visa and ticket business class if you like for the both of you to go there. Enjoy the holiday.

Just do not send me a postcard. I am not really interested in the version of Islam they practise.
 

301ouncer

Well-Known Member
Isn't this a thread for all people to participate in?

I'm making sure i understand exactly what are you debating here.

So what are we debating?

Are you RF police? Making sure what like?

No wonder egyption prisons full of true muslims calling to islam rather then criminals. Egyption secular dictator has made very sure of it.

I wanted to find out why Christendom is grouping with secularsim to stop Islam. WHY? Do they prefer Secularisim? Do they have a soft touch for it?

Can They explain? They seem to not have much input in this forum.
 
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xkatz

Well-Known Member
Weapons of Mass Destructive Sex. Dwarfing the weak and the old. No one is speared.

Sex is somewhat of an issue, yes. But still, people should have the right to fulfill there own desires. If they get STDs or whatever, it's their fault. Let them learn. I don't see people here no helping the sick or not caring for the elderly.



301ouncer said:
I believe you or Auto repeatedly mention Iran. If you mention Iran so much I will buy a visa and ticket business class if you like for the both of you to go there. Enjoy the holiday.

Just do not send me a postcard. I am not really interested in the version of Islam they practise.

I bring up Iran because of one important reason. You see, if one wants to establish a theocracy, clerics would almost always have power, since they interpret the religion, it's scripture, ect. By giving power to the clerics, they basically can make laws based upon their respective religion. Therefore, that religion and it's followers have all the representation.

How would you expect to run a theocratic gov't w/o involving clerics in some way?
 

Badran

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Are you RF police? Making sure what like?

Is my question so hard to answer? I'm not trying to find out your motives, i'm simply trying to understand what is it we are debating here, so i can participate too.

Don't address it to me, just clarify what exactly are we debating here.
 
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