Islam will dominate!

[Rainbow Mage]

Badran since this came up by 301ouncer earlier in this thread, can you answer me something? Does Islam hate Pagans/Polytheists and deny them rights in an Islamic society?

 

[xkatz]

Is my question so hard to answer? I'm not trying to find out your motives, i'm simply trying to understand what is it we are debating here, so i can participate too.

Don't address it to me, just clarify what exactly are we debating here.

I am not sure what he really wants to debate either, but he seems to have a thing for wanting to establish theocratic rule.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Also Badran- are there still people in the nation of Egypt that practice the ancient beliefs?

 

[Badran]

Badran since this came up by 301ouncer earlier in this thread, can you answer me something? Does Islam hate Pagans/Polytheists and deny them rights in an Islamic society?

Absolutely not. The only difference between Abrahamic religions and other religions for us (in my opinion), is that we acknowledge that Moses and Jesus had revelations from God.

As for other religions as well as Abrahamic ones, they have the same rights as any one else including Muslims in an Islamic society. They are certainly not to be hated or discriminated against or deprived of any rights whatsoever.

 

[Badran]

I am not sure what he really wants to debate either, but he seems to have a thing for wanting to establish theocratic rule.

Yes, i can't understand what is it exactly we are talking about here.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

I'm pretty sure Islam teaches that a Islamic society should only be pursued if the majority of a nation's citizens are Muslim. I'm pretty sure anything other then that is transgressing. I don't think any theocracy could work in the West anymore where we've been seperated from Christianity's rule for nearly 300 years now, at least in America anyway.

 

[Badran]

I wanted to find out why Christendom is grouping with secularsim to stop Islam. WHY? Do they prefer Secularisim? Do they have a soft touch for it?

Can They explain? They seem to not have much input in this forum.

Oh, okay. You mean why christians would rather have a secular state than an Islamic one?

If that's the case, let me add my opinion. It might be because they are not Muslims, and therefore they don't want to live under Islamic laws.

 

[zenzero]

Friend 301ouncer,

Religion of Peace? Yes Peace as long as they do not cross the line. It is a good religion it stands up and defends itself against aggression and tyarany and occupations.

WHO IS THIS *THEY*, clarify. Besides India specially has been invaded by muslims and the oppressed were Indians! JUSTIFY!

If you are trying to divide existence between *you* and *they* am certain that you have no idea of what religion or existence is all about.

Love & rgds

 

[dust1n]

Christianity is 100 times fold more human then secularisim even with all the crimes committed by past event is nothing in comparison to the outright onslought on mankind secularisim is doing right now.

This is the funniest thing I have read in ages...

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

 

[dust1n]

In reference into whether theocracy would be a good thing

Greatly. Yes. No more unheared of WMD prepetrated against the weak and the old.

And how exactly do you plan to do that? And is oppressing women necessary in doing so in the process?

No one is forcing you to believe in our system. You can be as you are, a subject of the system. The system is there to protect you and your childeren and family of the evil from people that are all around you.

What about me? I refuse to be a subject to your system. I do not need the protection for me and my children from evil from people around me with the help of your system. Does that mean your theocracy becomes the evil all around me?

It is only then tranqulity and peace is established.

Everything in my life has been tranquility and peace quite well without your political ideology.

 

[.lava]

Nay Chaos will Dominate.

will? i thought we were living in chaos already

.

 

[dust1n]

Nay Chaos will Dominate.

"CHAOS NEVER DIED. Primordial uncarved block, sole worshipful monster, inert & spontaneous, more ultraviolet than any mythology (like the shadows before Babylon), the original undifferentiated oneness-of-being still radiates serene as the black pennants of Assassins, random & perpetually intoxicated.

Chaos comes before all principles of order & entropy, it's neither a god nor a maggot, its idiotic desires encompass & define every possible choreography, all meaningless aethers & phlogistons: its masks are crystallizations of its own facelessness, like clouds.



Everything in nature is perfectly real including consciousness, there's absolutely nothing to worry about. Not only have the chains of the Law been broken, they never existed; demons never guarded the stars, the Empire never got started, Eros never grew a beard."


- Hakim Bey

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Well anyhow, as for Islam dominating, I don't think any theocracy will work in the West, or even get off the ground. We've been free from Christian theocracy almost 300 years here in America, except for the brief intervenals where fundamentalists have used hard times to their advantage to get things passed like Under God in the pledge.

 

[Sunstone]

Why christianity has changed its course by joining forces with secularisim to stop the advance of islam? In my opinion they have totally got it wrong and sided with the wrong group.

Maybe most Christians don't favor tyranny.

 

[Madhuri]

Religion of Peace? Yes Peace as long as they do not cross the line. It is a good religion it stands up and defends itself against aggression and tyarany and occupations.

I'm sorry, are you saying that Islam is the Religion of Peace (small print: except for in any number of circumstances when peace is deemed unworthy).

You say that Islam is a good religion, that it can defend itself. Does it encourage being the aggressor, being the tyrannous occupier? I ask because I have spoken with a Muslim member on this site once who kept trying to defend the actions of Muslims who spread their religion across the world through violence (ie/ India). Apparently that was compeltely justified. What do you think?

 

[DeitySlayer]

Oh for crying out loud, 301 ouncer, stop making stupid comments like this; all you're doing is shaming the entirety of Islam, not all of whom stand for the same twisted, aggressive and perverted ideology that you do. Get over it.

 

[Azakel]

will? i thought we were living in chaos already

.

I'm not using Chaos in the sense that is is disorder, but more in a theological view.

"CHAOS NEVER DIED. Primordial uncarved block, sole worshipful monster, inert & spontaneous, more ultraviolet than any mythology (like the shadows before Babylon), the original undifferentiated oneness-of-being still radiates serene as the black pennants of Assassins, random & perpetually intoxicated.

Chaos comes before all principles of order & entropy, it's neither a god nor a maggot, its idiotic desires encompass & define every possible choreography, all meaningless aethers & phlogistons: its masks are crystallizations of its own facelessness, like clouds.



Everything in nature is perfectly real including consciousness, there's absolutely nothing to worry about. Not only have the chains of the Law been broken, they never existed; demons never guarded the stars, the Empire never got started, Eros never grew a beard."


- Hakim Bey

This is one good way to sum it up ^_^

 

[301ouncer]

I think the only people who end up hating anything, religion included, are those who feel threatened or have been threatened by it.
Hate is a very negative quality 301ouncer, and a quality that I see you project online here quite frequently.

I have never said ever that I hated this group or that group. I hate the system that produce the rotten fruits that many people around the globe are witnessing to. The foundation of secularisim is what I hate and I am justifiably right.

Since you talking about hate. I didn't say I hated Indians or anyone but either way it does not detract from the fact that in India people:

1. marry animals to ward off evil.

2. Unjust Cast system (Which is a fundamental teachings of hinduism) that oppress the poor. It is forbidden for a better cast person to be in anyway involved i.e marriage etc with a lower cast system person.

3. the elevation of animles to holyness status.

4. Any special event that occure. That event is turned into a diety and worshipped by the masses. i.e the infulx of huge number of Monkeys on some southeastern states are automatically turn the monkey into a GOD and statues and offerings are given to.

As for ''Hindus'' ask the VJP why they hate us as they murdered 5000 Muslims on mass in Gujarat over a couple of days...when concidering the muslims in india are the minority.

You see my good friend it is the system in place and in opertion that I abhore and detest and not the subjects of this same system

 

[DeitySlayer]

As for ''Hindus'' ask the VJP why they hate us as they murdered 5000 Muslims on mass in Gujarat over a couple of days...when concidering the muslims in india are the minority.

Rich irony, that. Have you ever considered how many non-Muslims were killed as Islam conquered it's way across North Africa and Asia? Or how many are being repressed and killed by extremist Muslims?

 

[Rainbow Mage]

301 did you forget to mention how Muslims invaded India in the first place and Hindus literally had to fight to win their land back only to have it taken again by the Christians, then they had to win it back again?