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Israel’s war crimes in Gaza are by design, not default
- Thread starter Sakeenah
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metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Hamas oppresses the Palestinians, and roughly 5000 Palestinians are in the IDF and there is no draft for them. Hamas' killing and raping and torturing of innocent Israeli civilians is what started this, and no song & dance changes that.
There are differences, obviously. Gaza is more like a very large Warsaw Ghetto than it is like Auschwitz, for instance.
That aside, the IDF is killing Gazan children at a rate approximately one tenth of the rate that Jewish children were killed in the Holocaust (100 per day vs. 1,000 per day).
Do you consider a tenth of a Holocaust acceptable? Do you consider it fundamentally different?
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
Those are specifically designed to detonate under-ground to prevent civilian causalities. They are not intended to kill innocent civilians, especially if they receive something like this several days prior.
Even before 10.8.23, Israel targeted civilians with
bombs designed to cause surface damage. Israel
targets everyone in the vicinity of the ostensible
target.
Israel Called Them ‘Precision’ Strikes. But Civilian Homes Were Hit, Too. (Published 2023)
Palestinians in Gaza say that Israel’s strikes against Islamic Jihad amount to a collective punishment aimed at making them fearful about who their neighbors might be.
bombs to wipe out surface structures.
Israel has openly admitted prioritizing destruction
over accuracy.
Military experts discuss Israel's use of unguided bombs and harm to civilians in Gaza
According to reports from CNN and The Washington Post, the U.S. intelligence community believes that up to 45 percent of the bombs Israel has dropped in Gaza were unguided, a tactic that Israel’s military has defended. Geoff Bennett discusses those weapons with retired Air Force Lt. Gen. David...
www.pbs.org
& then kills them on route, & at the destination.
The net result in Gaza is what it is, no matter
what bombs you say they use. And this result
comports with plans to evict Palestinians from
Gaza, sending them on a diaspora to Africa.
Sakeenah
Well-Known Member
Bassem responded nicely to these flyers, I've got nothing to add..( btw he's being sarcastic)
Sakeenah
Well-Known Member
" The video investigation focuses on the use of 2,000-pound bombs in an area of southern Gaza where Israel had ordered civilians to move for safety. While bombs of that size are used by several Western militaries, munitions experts say they are almost never dropped by U.S. forces in densely populated areas anymore."
Where is Israel using these bombs that should not be used in densely populated areas in the world? In the most densely populated area in the world.
A Times Investigation Tracked Israel’s Use of One of Its Most Destructive Bombs in South Gaza
A Times visual investigation reveals that one of Israel’s largest munitions was regularly being dropped in areas designated safe for i
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This is the US & Israel idea of "self defense".
Genocide Joe calls for ceasefire,
while sending more bombs to
Gaza. Free delivery by Israel.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I would love to know where you found the Israeli gas chambers and skin and bone Palestinian bodies stacked up like firewood ready for mass Graves or mass cremation.
I mean you are quoting similarities here. Are you not?
Similarities are not exact comparisons. But you knew that before you posted this inanity.....
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Well you were comparing it with Nazi Europe. Personally I think you're talking about apples and oranges here because Israel is nothing remotely close to Nazis and how they conducted themselves.
To treat "similarity" as meaning identical
in every way, is an artful way to deny very
real similarities, eg, devaluing lives of
the targeted group, genocide.
Note that Nazis & Israel both meet the
definition of "genocide", despite their
very different approaches, with Nazis
being far deadlier.
And the comparisons have validity. Ariel Sharon is on record as having referred to Arabs as 'cockroaches' - meaning 'subhuman'. The similarity in how 38 million Christian Germans saw those nasty, Jesus killing Jews is undeniable. But of course, actions speak louder than words - so I remind you of Qibya, Shatilla, Al Bureij, and now Gaza, where the completely non-Nazi Israelis applied a 'solution' by way of the clearly 'proportional response' to 1139 Israeli dead of ...... 27,000 dead Palestinians. You might want to quit while you're behind.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I don't think so. Not with comparisons of Nazis to Israelites in that context.
And all Jews, being part of an insidious kabal, think the same.
And Hitler was the only German to demonize Jews. See the similarity in these vapid thoughts?
Not sure you can call it genocide since they are from the same genetic stock of Canaan.
The "Jews" who stayed behind were converted to Islam. Those that dispersed to Europe remained Jewish.
So it is a people fighting among itself because of religious conversion.
They are basically thinning out the Canaanite herd in a self genocide.
Religion is the evil here in that it can cause a people to destroy themselves.
Self destruction is never a good thing. This Abrahamic God is a real dick. Keeps sending prophets to rile up the believers.
And yet, Israel / Jews don't consider Palestinians to be "Semites".
Genocide - Wikipedia
...1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly.[1][2]
Palestinians are viewed (by the Jewish State)
as a separate group, thus meeting the above
definition of genocide. Consider also that
Aryan Germans were as genetically similar to
Jews, & often phenotypically indistinguishable.
Indeed, the morality of this God fellow is a very
context dependent thing. One morality for Jews,
a very different one for Muslims.
And before some wag tries to counter this by
saying Jews don't all think the same, The Jewish
State does what it does, with much support from
Jews in USA. (Christians support it too, which
makes them a problem too.) The group can be
characterized by the predominant views, & how
their country acts.
This is just like their treating Republicans or
Democrats as having defining traits, individual
variations notwithstanding....like the "basket
of deplorables".
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
More heartbreak...
"A six-year-old girl who went missing in Gaza City last month has been found dead, along with several of her relatives and two paramedics who tried to save her, after they appear to have come under fire from Israeli tanks."
- Hind Rajab, 6, found dead in Gaza days after phone calls for help
"A six-year-old girl who went missing in Gaza City last month has been found dead, along with several of her relatives and two paramedics who tried to save her, after they appear to have come under fire from Israeli tanks."
- Hind Rajab, 6, found dead in Gaza days after phone calls for help