Well the way things are going these days, the end days might come before any more building can happen. There must be a solution. I have heard about the Christian Evangelicals supporting this for the Second Coming, but it's an agenda on their part that isn't very truthful. These agendas are what makes religion so dangerous imo. When it is about love and compassion fine, but when it is about ending the world, I think it's dangerous!
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Israel attacks gaza strip
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.lava
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are there schools that teach to be Rabbi? how do you become one? if there was one source that teaches people who wants to be Rabbi, then how your Rabbi say different than others?
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Oh and the temple i didnt think there was any evidence of solomon just the western wall which is Herodian, i have had the honour of entering the dome of the rock mosque and the Al Asqua , they are beautiful buildings that are a world heritage. it is unfortunate that they were built on top of the temple mount but its a fact.
sindbad5
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sure
what you think Odion about these issues, and how to solve it:
- refugees in camps in gaza and west bank, and refugees in lebanon, jordon, and syria, and refugees in other arab countries and the world?
- if to choose 2 states, do you think israel will give this state real independence: army, airports, sea ports, ...etc, or the geopolitical situation make itimpossible to happen?
- what you think about 1 state from river to sea solution?
- what you think about Aqsaa mosque and the temple issue? how to solve this without destroying the mosque?
I think the Temple should be built next to the Al Aqsa Mosque
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
Return them to their land?
One confederation ruled by secular laws [at a national level] - like Turkey, but, within each state, ruled by Muslim and Jewish laws respectively - i.e., Palestine is governed by Muslim laws, Israel by Jewish laws - but nevertheless certain laws are shared by both, including democracy, and freedom.
With a bit of tinkering, fine. I think the government should be both democratic and secular though. No religious authority, except on a local level, with freedoms including the right to live, allowed.
Build the Temple next to Al-Aqsaa - but slightly further away, and have separate entrances so that the Muslims and Jews will not interact and quarrel.
sindbad5
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Return them to their land?
One confederation ruled by secular laws [at a national level] - like Turkey, but, within each state, ruled by Muslim and Jewish laws respectively - i.e., Palestine is governed by Muslim laws, Israel by Jewish laws - but nevertheless certain laws are shared by both, including democracy, and freedom.
With a bit of tinkering, fine. I think the government should be both democratic and secular though. No religious authority, except on a local level, with freedoms including the right to live, allowed.
Build the Temple next to Al-Aqsaa - but slightly further away, and have separate entrances so that the Muslims and Jews will not interact and quarrel.
we are millimeters-scale have the same opinions
are you sure you are not a pro-Palestinians?
Breathe
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I am neither pro-Palestinians nor pro-Israeli. I am pro-peace.
Elessar
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Yes, they are called yeshivas, usually translated "seminary" - though my rabbi did not attend a yeshiva; he studied with his father, a rabbi, who studied with his own father, a rabbi, and so on, back several generations (though his own father switched from traditional Orthodoxy to Messianic movement). The rabbi was assistant, under his father, for the better part of a decade, and that's without his learning from his father as a child and teenager. When his father passed away, he succeeded as rabbi.
And, on the ruling, it is very much encouraged in Judaism to read the Tanakh and the Talmud and, in Messianic Judaism, the B'rit Chadasha (Christian NT), for oneself and to make your own rulings on things - even rabbis who attend yeshivas must do this. Only a very few, critical things are absolute to all forms of Judaism without exception.
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EiNsTeiN
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Most of the deaths from the palestenian side were civilians in the first day of the israeli ground forces attacks on Gaza...Hamas claimed they captured two israeli soldiers..
At least 17 people are killed and 130 injured when Israeli shells fall near a school and the main market in Gaza City, Palestinian health ministry officials tell the BBC.
At least 32 missiles are fired into Israel from Gaza, targeting Sderot, Netivot and other communities close to the border. One woman is slightly injured in Sderot
A tank shell fired in northern Gaza kills 12 people, most of them civilians, Palestinian sources say
BBC news..
At least 17 people are killed and 130 injured when Israeli shells fall near a school and the main market in Gaza City, Palestinian health ministry officials tell the BBC.
At least 32 missiles are fired into Israel from Gaza, targeting Sderot, Netivot and other communities close to the border. One woman is slightly injured in Sderot
A tank shell fired in northern Gaza kills 12 people, most of them civilians, Palestinian sources say
BBC news..
The problem here for all concerned is the failure of the Palestinians to self Govern,what could the Palestinians bring to the table hate,and non reccognition of Israel which is useless.
Just to point out i am on nobodys side but from the view i get Palestine has to blame itself for this,when it was nearing the end of the ceasefire what did Hamas do,have a meeting to make some proposals to take to the UN and Israel,a big no on that one,guarantees that if the border were to be opened that no attacks by suicide bombers would happen,no the best they could come up with is "i know lets fire some Rockets into Israel that will sort it out.
Everybody demonises Israel but they are Human aswell both good and bad and i am sorry to say it but Palestine has too much bad in it.
Once this mess is over i hope that some good leadership comes from somewhere within Palestine because that is something they have never had.
Just to point out i am on nobodys side but from the view i get Palestine has to blame itself for this,when it was nearing the end of the ceasefire what did Hamas do,have a meeting to make some proposals to take to the UN and Israel,a big no on that one,guarantees that if the border were to be opened that no attacks by suicide bombers would happen,no the best they could come up with is "i know lets fire some Rockets into Israel that will sort it out.
Everybody demonises Israel but they are Human aswell both good and bad and i am sorry to say it but Palestine has too much bad in it.
Once this mess is over i hope that some good leadership comes from somewhere within Palestine because that is something they have never had.
EiNsTeiN
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I would second that...
I would like to see a self governing Palestinian state but it comes with a price,the price my country has paid for peace in Northern Ireland is to have an ex terrorist in Parliament,we want peace and so does most of Ireland so we paid the price.
When hatred is the motivation there can be no peace and only the innocent suffer for the wreckless behaviour of of an imposing minority and it serves no purpose to any good,hate is blinding.
I hope so much for the future of Palestine but the future is in their hands.
When hatred is the motivation there can be no peace and only the innocent suffer for the wreckless behaviour of of an imposing minority and it serves no purpose to any good,hate is blinding.
I hope so much for the future of Palestine but the future is in their hands.
Therefore?
EiNsTeiN
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Nothing, just providing updates of the situation...
EiNsTeiN
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I'm not sure about the opinions regarding this link, but I think it's hallirious, and the best to describe the situation over there!..
Rantings of a Sandmonkey » Get Your War On!
Rantings of a Sandmonkey » Get Your War On!
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