Israel attacks gaza strip

[Elessar]

mmm...So the country that doesnt settle for peace with israel is under the risk of losing its lands?...Thats really impressive!!

Obviously - this has been the rule for thousands upon thousands of years of warfare. You fight with someone, you lose the war, you lose land. This is a universal truth, even in the last century. For example:

Germany: before World War I.

Germany: After World War I, before World War II

Germany: After World War II

Anyone who thinks that territory loss isn't part of losing a war is dreaming. The members of the United Nations took lands from the members of the Axis Nations - China, United States, and Soviet Union from Japan, Poland and Denmark from Germany, and so on. The United Nations Alliance itself forcibly annexed the entire planet and claimed universal jurisdiction after its victory in the UN-Axis War.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

since you have no ability to emphatize with us Muslims, ...

I have neither the ability nor the desire to 'emphatize' with those committed to terror and the destruction of Israel and, thereby, to the misery in Gaza and elsewhere.

 

[.lava]

I have neither the ability nor the desire to 'emphatize' with those committed to terror and the destruction of Israel and, thereby, to the misery in Gaza and elsewhere.

entire world is watching NOW who's commited to terror and who's being terrorized.

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[Jayhawker Soule]

Most of the casualities there are civilians, ...

Then damn the cynical scum who fire rockets and mortars from behind human shields.

The infra structure of Gaza is totally destroyed..

The terrorist infrastructure is more than capable of producing and employing armaments against Israeli civilian targets -- armaments greedily acquired thanks to the recent truce.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

entire world is watching NOW who's commited to terror and who's being terrorized.

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The entire world may not be as blind as you think.

 

[England my lionheart]

since you have no ability to emphatize with us Muslims, i do not think that you could even imagine how it feels like to be burnt from within. instead of being in comfort and being happy while thousands of people are living with continious fear and bloodshed, i rather refuse to share fake happiness of blind and cry. so you go ahead and smile upon dead children and blame Hamas, but let me cry.

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They cannot be Muslims because as i have been told by you and others that anyone who follows false Hadiths or carries out suicide attacks is not a Muslim

 

[.lava]

They cannot be Muslims because as i have been told by you and others that anyone who follows false Hadiths or carries out suicide attacks is not a Muslim

if you say you are Muslims then you are one. they are Muslims but they are wrong doers. besides my post is not about Hamas. i do not know Hamas. but innocent civilians i feel for.


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[Luminous]

Why the Hell Are We Allied with Israel? | BREAK THE MATRIX
So... Why are we allied with Israel?

Also:

I wouldn't call myself Muslim because that would be speaking in another language. I am submissive to the Will of The Only God.
Being over dramatic is a dangerous thing. the sin of tristitia is degrading to the mind and spirit.

 

[challupa]

sweet friend, this concern is not just about Muslims of Gaza. there are anti semitic people who wants to kill all Jews. some Muslims and some non-Muslims. i would have defended rights of Jewish people against them. but now, people who stand against Israel are not anti semitic people. imagine, Israel starts bombing Gaza and in three hours there were a few thousands of people walking on street. Israel goes into Gaza from ground and in one hour nearly a thousand people surrounds Israeli embassy in Istanbul. today, there is this basketball match between Israel and Turkey. Israeli sportsmen can not even show their faces. these people are not anti semitic and this kind of stuff never happened in the past. i see it for the first time in my life time. if Israel really wanted this to happen, i sincerely doubt they care for their citizens. it is not gonna fade away this time. i am afraid there would be more bloodshed to be added to blood of innocent people of Gaza. everyone would suffer. this is just out of our hands. nothing to do but to pray and eventually we would all get what we truly deserve.

thank you for your kindness

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Yes lava I know it's not just about Gaza. I am also worried about the Jews and others in Africa where there are many being killed and suffering. I was specific in my post to you and Einstien because you are both Muslim and that post was to let you know I cared. I care about all people and it concerns me that Jewish people are not able to play in their game against Turkey because they fear for their lives. Many innocent lives are being affected by this, probably far more than we can determine at such an early date.

 

[Elessar]

Why the Hell Are We Allied with Israel? | BREAK THE MATRIX
So... Why are we allied with Israel?

Also:

There's a very simple reason. It has nothing to do with American interests here and abroad, but with political interests in the United States. The Jewish-American population tend to live in critical swing-states and tend to be the wealthiest political donors; Jews also tend to be disproportionately found in elected office in the United States, due to many different factors, not least of which is that the average Jewish-American is much better educated than the average American in general. Additionally, American evangelical Christians tend to be disproportionately powerful, due to whatever reasons, due to living in critical swing states, disproportionately found in elected office, and so on.

The person who wrote the article fails to take in a major, major, MAJOR factor in international relations, especially pertaining to democracies - internal politics is the most important factor in the international actions of a country. There is no other factor which has anywhere near the pull of internal politics to modify the international relations of ANY nation, democracy or no.

 

[EiNsTeiN]

Obviously - this has been the rule for thousands upon thousands of years of warfare. You fight with someone, you lose the war, you lose land. This is a universal truth, even in the last century. For example:

Germany: before World War I.

Germany: After World War I, before World War II

Germany: After World War II

Anyone who thinks that territory loss isn't part of losing a war is dreaming. The members of the United Nations took lands from the members of the Axis Nations - China, United States, and Soviet Union from Japan, Poland and Denmark from Germany, and so on. The United Nations Alliance itself forcibly annexed the entire planet and claimed universal jurisdiction after its victory in the UN-Axis War.

I'm so impressed by your words!!
There comes the ugly face!...
Now I can comfortably claim that israel is making this whole thing to occupy the entire land, and maybe somewhere in the next 100 years committ to invade other lands...Nothing would gauruntee us peace this way...

Thanks for making you intentions that clear...

 

[EiNsTeiN]

And thanks for giving the "Nazi Germany" example when justifying the Israelian acts..

 

[Luminous]

I'm so impressed by your words!!
There comes the ugly face!...
Now I can comfortably claim that israel is making this whole thing to occupy the entire land, and maybe somewhere in the next 100 years committ to invade other lands...Nothing would gauruntee us peace this way...

Thanks for making you intentions that clear...

One can claim and claim. But agnostic they still are.
gauruntee peace by wiping out Israel?
How odd. It was Hamas who broke the peace of Israel by fireing rockets. which frighten the population very very much. granted that they are angry that Israel blockades them. But Isreal does this because it believes that Terrorist might smuggle in some deadly weapons. because of the Animosity that Hamas has againt the Secular republic of Israel, israel is more fearful of letting the "Gaza stripians" grow in strengh. there destruction that would have been caused by the rockets was supposed to make the rocket launches stop it and help the restoration. but the rocket launchers did not care and kept fireing so Israel decided to send in the troops to distract the launcher so they would have to take defensive and stop fireing into Israel. Now granted that many crazy jew live in Israel and Believe God gave them the "Land" As their anscestor leader said in the Torrah. I believe this leader lied as did Muhammad or who ever wrote the Quran In order to appease the Citizens and give them a reason to be organized under said government.
But who knows it's just my idea of the most likely truth. which one may as well believe though not take fundamentaly.
I would love to be able to back in time and see just how each of these big religions came into existance and if or not they are true.

 

[Luminous]

And thanks for giving the "Nazi Germany" example when justifying the Israelian acts..

If you can do it; you can do it. But consequences always come. the Muhammadists who settled Palestine won it through war aswell.

 

[EiNsTeiN]

One can claim and claim. But agnostic they still are.
gauruntee peace by wiping out Israel? Who said so?!
How odd. It was Hamas who broke the peace of Israel by fireing rockets. which frighten the population very very much And in return, Israel just killed 600 citizens!...How a reasonable response!. granted that they are angry that Israel blockades them. But Isreal does this because it believes that Terrorist might smuggle in some deadly weapons Then why did they agree on Ceasefire in the first place?. because of the Animosity that Hamas has againt the Secular republic of Israel, israel is more fearful of letting the "Gaza stripians" grow in strengh. there destruction that would have been caused by the rockets was supposed to make the rocket launches stop it and help the restoration. but the rocket launchers did not care and kept fireing so Israel decided to send in the troops to distract the launcher so they would have to take defensive and stop fireing into Israel. Now granted that many crazy jew live in Israel and Believe God gave them the "Land" As their anscestor leader said in the Torrah. I believe this leader lied as did Muhammad or who ever wrote the Quran In order to appease the Citizens and give them a reason to be organized under said government.
But who knows it's just my idea of the most likely truth. which one may as well believe though not take fundamentaly.
I would love to be able to back in time and see just how each of these big religions came into existance and if or not they are true.

BTW, I was just commenting and extracting facts out of certain posts in the thread!..

 

[EiNsTeiN]

If you can do it; you can do it. But consequences always come. the Muhammadists who settled Palestine won it through war aswell.

Well, if you check out the history there, people there wanted the muslims to rule...And actually, muslims were just giving people there independance from the unjustice empire of Romans..It was not just a war to aquire more lands!!

 

[gnomon]

I was starting to think we were wrong, and that we should have accepted the entire thing just for the sake of humanity...But now, I'm totally supporting what we did earlier!!..

So, everyone else gets to divid our lands and distribute them among people!

Are you a Palestinian?

 

[EiNsTeiN]

Are you a Palestinian?

No?...is that a tricky question?!

 

[EiNsTeiN]

If you are wondering why I'm sympathyzing that much, thats only because Gazans=all arabs, as I stated earlier..

Thanks

 

[gnomon]

No?...is that a tricky question?!

Then why do you say divide "our" lands?

or

I was starting to think we were wrong, and that we should have accepted the entire thing just for the sake of humanity...But now, I'm totally supporting what we did earlier!!..

Are you referring to the relationship between Egypt and Israel? Sinai?

Looking for context here.......