EiNsTeiN
Boo-h!
There you mix it all up again..
not4me didn't certainly mean "judaism", she ment "zionism"...
Thats a huge difference..
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not4me didn't certainly mean "judaism", she ment "zionism"...
Thats a huge difference..
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Aint that a sad truth.
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Hostis humani generis
Her sig is a star of David... the symbol of Judaism.
I don't know about others, but when I see the star of David, I think of Judaism. NOT Zionism.
Not, unfortunately, to many Muslims. Many view the terms interchangeably, I've learned here. I hope you are right. Perhaps not4me does not espouse the sig she displays.
However, if I say "Nazism < Sharia", "Nazism < Palestine" or anything like that, it's unacceptable to you. So why should Jews have to accept it?
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, and all that.
Oh, you mean as in ...
So tell me, EiNsTeiN, how does that differ from ...
... or shall we conclude that there is no difference, and that not4me was simply too ignorant to recognize that fact? I have mixed up nothing.
EiNsTeiN
Boo-h!
I will let her reply..
While we (muslims) do differentiate between judaism and zionism..
Yeah, u mixed things up...saying "Or drew a cartoon showing Muhammad as a terrorist ..." indicates that you "intentionally" related "islam" as a religion to terrorism..Oh, you mean as in ...
So tell me, EiNsTeiN, how does that differ from ...
... or shall we conclude that there is no difference, and that not4me was simply too ignorant to recognize that fact? I have mixed up nothing.
While we (muslims) do differentiate between judaism and zionism..
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
At some point you will have to face the absurd way this nonsense makes the people who repeat this propaganda look like.
Do you differentiate between Sharia and Islam?
further more, does one differentiate the star of David from Judaism? no, just like one does not differentiate between a picture of Muhammad and Islam.
Either way none of this is nice,the star of David is Israel,well thats how iv'e always seen it,like my flag,its the English flag,
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Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Dont worry lionheart, let me reassure you that the Union Jack also stars in the flamefest of flag burning.
EiNsTeiN
Boo-h!
Of course I dont differentiate between sharia and islam...How is that similar to what I was saying?
Does that mean that in order to be a jew, you must be a zionist?
And please, show me a simbol for zionism so that we can use it next time instead of the star of David..
Yes i know we are'nt popular either
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Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
No one in the world differentiate between the star of David and Judaism. the Jews of Europe were forced to wear the star of David on their clothes because of their Jewishness.
Your getting there.
Sure, if you give me all the symbols of All Muslim nations, so if I ever want to take a graphic cheap shot at Sharia or dictatorships I can use them instead of a Muhammad cartoon.
EiNsTeiN
Boo-h!
Maybe the lady in the picture thought that simbols work better than words..
Regarding the second question, I'd wish so, but as long as nothing changes, there will always be a next time..
EiNsTeiN
Boo-h!
I doubt...
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
Perhaps.
But protests won't solve anything. Britain still invaded Iraq when it was hugely unpopular. Over a million or more went to the streets supposedly. Protests don't seem to be effective any more. :thud:
Unless a solution is adopted besides "KILL THE JEWS" "DESTROY ISRAEL" etc, it will only create a cycle of violence and ignorance. Brainwashing children to hate the Jews, for one, will solve nothing.
See the videos I posted earlier. How can peace be expected with that?
Excellent!
By the way ...
Muslim countries
While antisemitism was less pronounced in Muslim countries, Jews were treated with contempt. This was expressed through sumptuary laws that established what colors, clothing or hats they were permitted or not permitted to wear. The use of distinctive clothing or marks for Jewish and other religious communities has been traced by historians to ancient times.[2] In the early Islamic period, non-Muslims were required to wear distinctive marks in public, such as metal seals fixed around their necks. Tattooing and branding of slaves and captives were widespread in the ancient world. However, Islam, like Judaism, forbids permanent skin markings. In consequence, lead or copper seals were used to mark non-Muslims and slaves in the Islamic world. [3] Likewise, they were not allowed to wear colors associated with Islam, particularly green. [4] The practice of physically branding Jews and Christians appears to have been begun in early medieval Baghdad and was considered highly degrading. [5] According to Bernard Lewis, Christians and Jews were forced to wear special emblems on their clothes. The yellow badge was first introduced by a caliph in Baghdad in the ninth century, and spread to the West in medieval times. Even in public baths, non-Muslims wore medallions suspended from cords around their necks so no one would mistake them for Muslims. Belts, headgear, shoes, armbands and/or cloth patches were also used. Under Shi'a rules, they were not even allowed to use the same baths [6] In 1005 the Jews of Egypt were ordered to wear bells on their garments.[7]
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While antisemitism was less pronounced in Muslim countries, Jews were treated with contempt. This was expressed through sumptuary laws that established what colors, clothing or hats they were permitted or not permitted to wear. The use of distinctive clothing or marks for Jewish and other religious communities has been traced by historians to ancient times.[2] In the early Islamic period, non-Muslims were required to wear distinctive marks in public, such as metal seals fixed around their necks. Tattooing and branding of slaves and captives were widespread in the ancient world. However, Islam, like Judaism, forbids permanent skin markings. In consequence, lead or copper seals were used to mark non-Muslims and slaves in the Islamic world. [3] Likewise, they were not allowed to wear colors associated with Islam, particularly green. [4] The practice of physically branding Jews and Christians appears to have been begun in early medieval Baghdad and was considered highly degrading. [5] According to Bernard Lewis, Christians and Jews were forced to wear special emblems on their clothes. The yellow badge was first introduced by a caliph in Baghdad in the ninth century, and spread to the West in medieval times. Even in public baths, non-Muslims wore medallions suspended from cords around their necks so no one would mistake them for Muslims. Belts, headgear, shoes, armbands and/or cloth patches were also used. Under Shi'a rules, they were not even allowed to use the same baths [6] In 1005 the Jews of Egypt were ordered to wear bells on their garments.[7]
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Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
About the same as not all Arabs are Muslim.
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