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Israel-Gaza : "Netanyahu vows no Palestinian state ..."
- Thread starter Jayhawker Soule
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Duh!
Palestinians aren't kosher.
It is difficult for non-Jews to appreciate the trauma induced by the horrific October 7th pogrom. It is a horror compounded by the unconscionable indifference and antisemitism flourishing in its wake. Quoting Rabbi Sharon Brous :
The clear message from many in the world, especially from our world — those who claim to care the most about justice and human dignity — is that these Israeli victims somehow deserved this terrible fate... Our humble ask is that people give a damn when we die. And it visits an additional anguish on our broken hearts when they do not.
But this anguish turns ugly if it prevents us from recognizing that "Our humble ask is that people give a damn when we die" could just as legitimately come from the mouth of a Palestinian mother.
My current signature is intended as a memorial. A Times of Israel article notes:
Many speakers from diverse backgrounds described their immense pain at Silver’s death, and their determination to pursue the causes to which she was devoted: peace and feminist activism.
Trauma can feed indifference and a desire for revenge, or it can nourish a thirst for Shalom.
It's difficult to appreciate because Israel responded
by killing several tens of thousands of Palestinians,
maiming many more, destroying so much of Gaza
as to be uninhabitable, planning to allow no
Palestinian state, & to finish fulfilling the definition
of "genocide" by sending the survivors to Africa.
You care greatly about 2,000 dead in Israel. But
you give less attention to the about 28,000 dead
in Gaza....murdered by Israel with the help of
Jews & Christians in USA who fuel death & mayhem.
Israel is more the perpetrator than the victim here.
Worse than anti-semitism is the virulent violent
Islamophobia exhibited by "good" Christians &
Jews. It causes far more death & destruction.
Nearby Dearborn is now on high alert for violence
against them because of the Wall St Journal's
screed attacking this peaceful city (with some
of the best food in the region).
There is no ignoring religious animosity & power
driving how this conflict is burning.
Shalom, Wall Street: The Influence of Jewish Business Leaders in America’s Financial Sector
The unmistakable imprint of Jewish influence on Wall Street. From humble beginnings to towering titans of finance.
jewishbusinessnews.com
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metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Some may find this interesting--or nauseating. It's one reporter from the Los Angeles Times posting back to another reporter who had been there, both who had done interviews in Gaza:
When I saw your article about Gazans being angry at Hamas, it gave me hope.
Perhaps there were stirrings of empathy in Gaza for the Israeli victims of Hamas' Oct. 7 pogrom. Maybe Gazans were realizing that butchering and burning Israeli babies in kibbutzim; slaughtering hundreds of young people at a music festival; raping and sexually mutilating women, girls and men; and kidnapping 240 people, including women, toddlers and an infant, was morally reprehensible and would reverberate to their own detriment.
Then I read the article, and my heart sank. There was no hint of empathy for raped, slaughtered and kidnapped Israelis, no willingness to acknowledge that Hamas brutally massacred Israeli civilians.
Gazans "celebrated" the attack; they criticized Hamas not for its barbarity, but for not planning better for the war... -- Letters to the Editor: Gazans are angry at Hamas, but not over the Oct. 7 massacre. How can there be peace?
When I saw your article about Gazans being angry at Hamas, it gave me hope.
Perhaps there were stirrings of empathy in Gaza for the Israeli victims of Hamas' Oct. 7 pogrom. Maybe Gazans were realizing that butchering and burning Israeli babies in kibbutzim; slaughtering hundreds of young people at a music festival; raping and sexually mutilating women, girls and men; and kidnapping 240 people, including women, toddlers and an infant, was morally reprehensible and would reverberate to their own detriment.
Then I read the article, and my heart sank. There was no hint of empathy for raped, slaughtered and kidnapped Israelis, no willingness to acknowledge that Hamas brutally massacred Israeli civilians.
Gazans "celebrated" the attack; they criticized Hamas not for its barbarity, but for not planning better for the war... -- Letters to the Editor: Gazans are angry at Hamas, but not over the Oct. 7 massacre. How can there be peace?
The Gazans support for Hamas is not as offensive as the Israeli support for the IDF genocide, there is no comparison for the magnitude of the Israeli crimes against humanity
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Seems obvious that compassion for others really isn't your thing, nor is your supposed understanding of what genocide truly entails.
Hamas is the one fighting Israel as it kills tens of
thousands of Palestinians. No one defends
Palestinians. And Israel billions of dollars of
bombs from USA....but no aid for Palestinians.
Since Israel is worse than Hamas, Palestinians
taking Hamas's side is understandable.
Israel & its fans find this unforgivable....but
this is just tribalism, ie, they care about their
own, but no one else.
its you that thinks Israeli lives are more important than Palestinian lives, talk about lack of compassion
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I never said nor implied that, nor do I believe it. Maybe you need to do some serious introspection as your "compassion" seems to be heavily one-sided.
My compassion lies more with the oppressed than the oppressor, yes
It's a case of uncontrolled animus run amok. Ignore it.
Laniakea
Not of this world
Do you still love making excuses for Hamas terrorists?
Laniakea
Not of this world
It's a liberal news source, so you should appreciate it.
Not if they report facts you don't like, of course.
Are you pleased that Israel killed a 5 year old girl
& the ambulance crew that tried to save her?
Excerpted....
5-year-old Palestinian girl Hind Rajab has been found dead.
Palestine Red Crescent Society
CNN —
A 5-year-old Palestinian girl who was trapped in a car with her dead relatives after it came under Israeli fire in Gaza last month has been found dead.
On January 29, Hind Rajab had been traveling in a car with her uncle, his wife and their four children, fleeing fighting in northern Gaza, when they came under Israeli fire, according to the Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS).
“The child [Hind Rajab] and everyone in the car were found killed by the Israeli Army near the Fares petrol station in the Tal Al-Hawa area, southwest of Gaza City, after about two weeks of her unknown fate due to the Israeli military operation in the area,” according to Khader Al Za’anoun, a Palestinian journalist working for CNN who spoke to the child’s grandfather.
The PRCS also confirmed the death of two ambulance workers dispatched to rescue the girl.
“The occupation deliberately targeted the Red Crescent crew despite obtaining prior coordination to allow the ambulance to reach the location to rescue the girl Hind,” read the statement.
Laniakea
Not of this world
Are you pleased that 1,200 Israelis died in their homes and at a "peace" music festival? Are you pleased that over 100 more are still being held hostage?
New websites show firsthand tragic accounts of October 7 massacre
Israel's official X account recently shared www.hamas-massacre.net, a site with dozens of gruesome photos and videos of the slaughter.
www.jpost.com
Israel sided with S Africa against the blacks
when it had apartheid. It openly said otherwise,
but it violated economic sanctions until caving
to US pressure.
Israel is a terrorist apartheid state. It should
expect violent resistance by the oppressed.
I am less pleased than you are at 28,000 PalestiniansAre you pleased that 1,200 Israelis died in their homes and at a "peace" music festival? Are you pleased that over 100 more are still being held hostage?
New websites show firsthand tragic accounts of October 7 massacre
Israel's official X account recently shared www.hamas-massacre.net, a site with dozens of gruesome photos and videos of the slaughter.
being murdered, many more being maimed, &
millions displaced by Israel.
Israel has killed 20 eyes for an eye. You must be
so proud that your people are fell death dealers.
You're a good representative of Israel's defenders.
Everything that I expect from them.