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Israel, What in the hell?

Avi1001

reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
More to the point, how is a two state solution even possible?

I think Israel should annex a large chunck of Jordan and offer that to the "Palestinians".

Realistically, a three state solution is needed because each state is run by its own terror group, and they will never agree on anything.

Once a true peace is achieved, the nut cases will have to be removed from power.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
One guys is not Hamas.
Experts have questioned his claim.
No one else from Hamas agrees with him.

But yeah stick your head back in the sand. You're really convincing people.:facepalm:
You polled everyone in Hamas?

All six news agency recognized the Hamas representative as the Hamas representative.

Once again, Hamas took responsibility for kidnapping and murdering the three teenagers.
 

Avi1001

reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
You polled everyone in Hamas?

All six news agency recognized the Hamas representative as the Hamas representative.

Once again, Hamas took responsibility for kidnapping and murdering the three teenagers.

CMike, we heard you the first ten times you told us this. Also, you say you don't believe anything Hamas says, but you believe them when they say they killed the 3 boys. :eek: This is logically illogical. ;)
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
CMike, we heard you the first ten times you told us this. Also, you say you don't believe anything Hamas says, but you believe them when they say they killed the 3 boys. :eek: This is logically illogical. ;)
But what would possibly pass as a reason for them admitting it? There is nothing to gain, aside from provoking Israel, and that is a pretty hefty price. It's not like the world has a more favorable view of the Hamas as a result.
 

Avi1001

reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
But what would possibly pass as a reason for them admitting it? There is nothing to gain, aside from provoking Israel, and that is a pretty hefty price. It's not like the world has a more favorable view of the Hamas as a result.

So you believe this is disinformation ? No doubt, circulated by the diabolical Jewish press ? ;)
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
So you believe this is disinformation ? No doubt, circulated by the diabolical Jewish press ? ;)
You mean the Jews don't control all media outlets???????? What??????????

Joking aside, one of the things I say to folks in real life about the various Muslim extremist factions is, "They're crazy, not stupid."
 

Avi1001

reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
You mean the Jews don't control all media outlets???????? What??????????

We gave them all up.....except Playboy and Penthouse.

We might be ethical...but we're not stupid. (Oops, I wrote my 2nd line before I saw your 2nd line). :D
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
CMike, we heard you the first ten times you told us this. Also, you say you don't believe anything Hamas says, but you believe them when they say they killed the 3 boys. :eek: This is logically illogical. ;)

When did I say that I don't believe anything that Hamas says?

I believe Hamas that what they want to do is kill all the jews

I believe Hamas when they took reponsibility for the kidnappaing and murder of the three Israeli teenagers

Hitler should have been believed when he said in Mein Kumf that he wanted to kill all the jews.

I am very grateful that Israel has a strong prime minister in office who is protecting the country.

It would be suicidal for Israel to hae a prime minister who is in La La Land whom thinks that just giving in to terrorists isn't going destroy the country.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
But what would possibly pass as a reason for them admitting it? There is nothing to gain, aside from provoking Israel, and that is a pretty hefty price. It's not like the world has a more favorable view of the Hamas as a result.
They are probably proud of it.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
The land that they are going to build homes on are about 1 1/5 miles.

BFD except to the ethnic cleansers whom think that jews don't have a right to build homes on their land.
 

MattersOfTheHeart

Active Member
But what would possibly pass as a reason for them admitting it? There is nothing to gain, aside from provoking Israel, and that is a pretty hefty price. It's not like the world has a more favorable view of the Hamas as a result.
The one guy, the only guy, claiming responsibility is an exiled Hamas leader, that could possibly be trying to convince others of his clout still as a force in the whole mess.

Experts have said, it is unlikely he had anything to do with it.
Israeli leaders have said the same thing.

Cmike has posted 6 articles, but might as well have posted one, cause they are all the same. Hardly evidence. I simply asked him to be reasonable, but that will never happen as I am learning.

Me personally I am only on the side of the innocent victims on both sides. And after at first instinctually siding with Israel, I have examined enough evidence over the years to realize all is not as it seems. Israel has some very dirty hands in all of this, but you are instantly labeled an anti-semite and all the rest you know...
 

MattersOfTheHeart

Active Member
When did I say that I don't believe anything that Hamas says?

I believe Hamas that what they want to do is kill all the jews

I believe Hamas when they took reponsibility for the kidnappaing and murder of the three Israeli teenagers

Hitler should have been believed when he said in Mein Kumf that he wanted to kill all the jews.

I am very grateful that Israel has a strong prime minister in office who is protecting the country.

It would be suicidal for Israel to hae a prime minister who is in La La Land whom thinks that just giving in to terrorists isn't going destroy the country.
Of course you believe all of that, because it fits your skewed world view. We would expect nothing less from such a balanced unbiased observer as yourself:facepalm:
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
The one guy, the only guy, claiming responsibility is an exiled Hamas leader, that could possibly be trying to convince others of his clout still as a force in the whole mess.

Experts have said, it is unlikely he had anything to do with it.
Israeli leaders have said the same thing.
Sadly, these "experts" are a dime a dozen these days.

Cmike has posted 6 articles, but might as well have posted one, cause they are all the same. Hardly evidence. I simply asked him to be reasonable, but that will never happen as I am learning.
Then again, if the Hamas wished to distance itself from this claim, it would be fairly easy for them to do so. Have they? I haven't heard a word of denial.

Me personally I am only on the side of the innocent victims on both sides. And after at first instinctually siding with Israel, I have examined enough evidence over the years to realize all is not as it seems. Israel has some very dirty hands in all of this, but you are instantly labeled an anti-semite and all the rest you know...
It would depend what you said before I played that card. Israel-bashing is so fashionable these days that it is sometimes hard to tell who is the Anti-Semite and who is not.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
The one guy, the only guy, claiming responsibility is an exiled Hamas leader, that could possibly be trying to convince others of his clout still as a force in the whole mess.

Experts have said, it is unlikely he had anything to do with it.
Israeli leaders have said the same thing.

Cmike has posted 6 articles, but might as well have posted one, cause they are all the same. Hardly evidence. I simply asked him to be reasonable, but that will never happen as I am learning.

Me personally I am only on the side of the innocent victims on both sides. And after at first instinctually siding with Israel, I have examined enough evidence over the years to realize all is not as it seems. Israel has some very dirty hands in all of this, but you are instantly labeled an anti-semite and all the rest you know...
You have a Hamas retraction?
 

Tali018

Member
I am speechless kind of.
So another settlement will appear with gated community shunning Palestinians.

I thought part of the goal was two state area? How is this helping anything?

It's been 47 years and there have been numerous plans put on the table. But while the PA keeps on throwing in pre-conditions to actually talk is a waste of time since some of them are past absurd (and they must be 100% met as a requirement). Israel has gotten tired of playing this game. So what are the going to do? Build, Build, Build. The PA doesn't want to deal with the Israelis so they are trying to go through the UN. And all the UN will do is create more resolutions. And my question is: Who exactly is going to enforce these resolutions or send in their troops to force Israel to do anything?

BTW there are no gated communities in the West Bank. Nearly all of these settlements are filled with overly Orthodox Jews that even Secular Jews don't want to live in the same neighborhood as. So I don't see any Arab that would even think about moving into these areas.
 
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