It is possible that Jesus sinned.

[CMike]

Originally Posted by CMike
The way you fulfill Torah law is by keeping the laws.

So there is nothing in the Torah about where prophets prophecized about the coming of the Messiah?

There is. However, it has nothing to do with fulling the torah law.

Prophets had nothing to do with Torah law.

All Torah law comes from the five books of Moses.

The prophets just prophesized. That's why they were known as prophets.

 

[sojourner]

Apparently not.

There is absolutely nothing in the Torah regarding the messiah "fulfilling the law".

The only way to fulfill the law is to keep the law.

I didn't say there was. But apparently these Jews bought into that concept, or they wouldn't be Christians.

 

[nash8]

Matthew was written to Christians of Jewish descent, living in Gentile territory. They would have been well-versed in Torah, and would buy into a messiah that was the fulfillment of the Law. I'll look up the references I have, when I have more time.

I'd be very interested in that.

Apparently not.

There is absolutely nothing in the Torah regarding the messiah "fulfilling the law".

The only way to fulfill the law is to keep the law.

Again, I ask what is the Torah Law?

Originally Posted by CMike
The way you fulfill Torah law is by keeping the laws.


There is. However, it has nothing to do with fulling the torah law.

Prophets had nothing to do with Torah law.

All Torah law comes from the five books of Moses.

The prophets just prophesized. That's why they were known as prophets.

So what is the Torah Law within the five books of Moses? And how did what Jesus taught, differe from the Torah Law. Compare and contrast?

I didn't say there was. But apparently these Jews bought into that concept, or they wouldn't be Christians.

True, True.

 

[metis]

Again, I ask what is the Torah Law?

You can find the 613 as found in Torah here: Judaism 101: A List of the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments)

 

[CMike]

Originally Posted by CMike
Apparently not.

There is absolutely nothing in the Torah regarding the messiah "fulfilling the law".

The only way to fulfill the law is to keep the law.

I didn't say there was. But apparently these Jews bought into that concept, or they wouldn't be Christians.

Unfortunately, in the history of the jews, there have been jews that have gone in another direction.

 

[CMike]

You can find the 613 as found in Torah here: Judaism 101: A List of the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments)

Also non jews have 7 commandments. The ones that were given to Noach.

 

[metis]

Also non jews have 7 commandments. The ones that were given to Noach.

The prohibition of Idolatry.
The prohibition of Murder.
The prohibition of Theft.
The prohibition of Sexual immorality.
The prohibition of Blasphemy.
The prohibition of eating flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive.
The requirement of maintaining courts to provide legal recourse.

However, let me just add that there's other implications than just the letter of these Laws themselves, such as the idea that other people are important and shouldn't be taken advantage of.

 

[roger1440]

The prohibition of Idolatry.
The prohibition of Murder.
The prohibition of Theft.
The prohibition of Sexual immorality.
The prohibition of Blasphemy.
The prohibition of eating flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive.
The requirement of maintaining courts to provide legal recourse.

However, let me just add that there's other implications than just the letter of these Laws themselves, such as the idea that other people are important and shouldn't be taken advantage of.

That would probably fall under:
"The requirement of maintaining courts to provide legal recourse."

 

[nash8]

You can find the 613 as found in Torah here: Judaism 101: A List of the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments)

Thank you sir, very enlightening.

 

[metis]

Thank you sir, very enlightening.

You're welcome.

Shalom