It May Be The Taliban Has This Right.

[Terrywoodenpic]

Within its society, the Muslim Taliban places a strong plan of management of women.

1.) Not to be formally educated.

This is in agreement with Biblical 1 Cor. 14:35, "If they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home."

2.) Not be in any leadership in Churches.

Agreement with 1 Cor.14:34, "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak," and 1 Tim. 2:12, "But I suffer not a woman to teach, or to usurp authority over a man."

3.) Not display personal emhancements or jewelry.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 2:9, "That women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array."

4.) Not presume to verbally contribute upon common issues.

Agreement with 1Tim. 2:11-12, "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjugation ... To be in silence."

5.) Not overtly expressing trivia and loud talk.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 3:11, "Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober."

6.) The Men are to be in charge of the house and home.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 3:12, "Let the Deacons be ... ruling their children and their own houses well."

It easily appears that Christian Apostle Paul and Muslim Taliban Men, although a bit too hairy and with limited chatting ability, in fact both understood women well. The Muslim Men have just refined and standardized the presentation of their women by using burkas, and by giving them work at their home environs to keep busy with. This actually is quite similar to The Proverbs 31 Woman we all like to see.

Certainly, no abuse of women is in order in spite of what emotionally intuitive they endeavors might excessively pursue. Her husband's wisdom with gentle reminders and helpful direction will always place a better outcome for the family. Fighting and shrieking never accomplish kindness for anyone.

What an obscene post.

 

[firedragon]

All sending foreign aid to the Taliban would do is free up and / or directly contribute resources they need for arms to further oppress women and minorities in their country.

Yeah. Super analysis. Kudos.

 

[firedragon]

Not only do we not owe the Taliban a bent cent but it would be immoral to give it to them.

What do you mean "we"? Lol.

 

[Secret Chief]

How is it what they do "opression"?

The torture, the terrorising, the killing...

 

[JesusistheonlyWay99]

The torture, the terrorising, the killing...

And you think we should go to war with them?

 

[Secret Chief]

And you think we should go to war with them?

We?

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Our leaders sis is not the issue really. They do squeeze some countries to pulp, but the issue is the control of IMF which is an international body, not owned any particular country. Thus, the IMF funding should not be affected by one single country or many for that matter.

Let me give you an example. I won't name names, but if you google this you can find it Im sure. In 2009 Hillary Clintons emails got leaked. Some of her emails were to a big shot at the IMF. They were discussing a civil war in an asian country (not the Middle East which everyone is obsessed about). The war was between the government and probably the most dangerous terrorist group in the entire world. So she was pressurising the IMF to stop their aid to this country if they dont stop the fight. Who were they trying to help? The terrorists.

So IMF funding can sway a lot of things. They should not be under anyones thumb. This is the problem.



Talking about Afghanistan, what they should have done is immediately form a parliament, and tell the Taliban to form a party for a democratic election. When people form parties, it is only historical that they have certain changes which are inevitable. What actually happened was they formed a government lead by former advisors of the Carlyle group and the Unical etc etc. They, ran away with big money. See, if I was given an option to choose between a corrupt government with my personal freedom and a non-corrupt government without my personal freedom I will probably choose the corrupt government. I think. Because I want my personal freedom. This is the choice they gave to the people. You cant start an orphanage or even build a small drainage in the Afghan grounds without bribes that go from the bottom to the helm.

So this is what they should have done.

And how do you tell the Taliban to do anything. The Americans et all have tried military might and totally failed.

 

[JesusistheonlyWay99]

And how do you tell the Taliban to do anything. The Americans et all have tried military might and totally failed.

There will be a religious revival, and theres nothing secularists can do against it.

 

[firedragon]

And how do you tell the Taliban to do anything. The Americans et all have tried military might and totally failed.

Telling the Taliban to do anything is a whole different walk. You cant just dream up assumptions.

And to be frank, I dont think have a clue what happened there or what anyone did. I am saying that judging by your statement there.

 

[danieldemol]

What do you mean "we"? Lol.

The west.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Telling the Taliban to do anything is a whole different walk. You cant just dream up assumptions.

And to be frank, I dont think have a clue what happened there or what anyone did. I am saying that judging by your statement there.

For now at least the Taliban will do what ever they want.
They will not listen to anyone..
They have the power to establish the law as they see it.

They will wrap America around their little finger, they will get all the funds they need by promising what ever they are asked to do.
But it will be honoured with lip service only. American politicians will vie with each other to give them what ever they want in exchange for no more than amounts to a photo opportunity.
Don't doubt it, it happens all the time.

 

[Rawshak]

Within its society, the Muslim Taliban places a strong plan of management of women.

1.) Not to be formally educated.

This is in agreement with Biblical 1 Cor. 14:35, "If they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home."

2.) Not be in any leadership in Churches.

Agreement with 1 Cor.14:34, "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak," and 1 Tim. 2:12, "But I suffer not a woman to teach, or to usurp authority over a man."

3.) Not display personal emhancements or jewelry.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 2:9, "That women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array."

4.) Not presume to verbally contribute upon common issues.

Agreement with 1Tim. 2:11-12, "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjugation ... To be in silence."

5.) Not overtly expressing trivia and loud talk.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 3:11, "Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober."

6.) The Men are to be in charge of the house and home.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 3:12, "Let the Deacons be ... ruling their children and their own houses well."

It easily appears that Christian Apostle Paul and Muslim Taliban Men, although a bit too hairy and with limited chatting ability, in fact both understood women well. The Muslim Men have just refined and standardized the presentation of their women by using burkas, and by giving them work at their home environs to keep busy with. This actually is quite similar to The Proverbs 31 Woman we all like to see.

Certainly, no abuse of women is in order in spite of what emotionally intuitive they endeavors might excessively pursue. Her husband's wisdom with gentle reminders and helpful direction will always place a better outcome for the family. Fighting and shrieking never accomplish kindness for anyone.

I guess if some people cannot cope with a real women then they have the right to try to find the type they dream of. However if they cannot persuade a women to behave in a manner they can cope with then they have no right to force women into it. Do you agree?

 

[firedragon]

The west.

Lool.

 

[firedragon]

For now at least the Taliban will do what ever they want.
They will not listen to anyone..
They have the power to establish the law as they see it.

They will wrap America around their little finger, they will get all the funds they need by promising what ever they are asked to do.
But it will be honoured with lip service only. American politicians will vie with each other to give them what ever they want in exchange for no more than amounts to a photo opportunity.
Don't doubt it, it happens all the time.

Well, I will not stoop to the level of addressing your assumptions based on nothing, but saying "it happens all the time" being a bogus statement I say it.

Have a good day.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Within its society, the Muslim Taliban places a strong plan of management of women.

1.) Not to be formally educated.

This is in agreement with Biblical 1 Cor. 14:35, "If they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home."

2.) Not be in any leadership in Churches.

Agreement with 1 Cor.14:34, "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak," and 1 Tim. 2:12, "But I suffer not a woman to teach, or to usurp authority over a man."

3.) Not display personal emhancements or jewelry.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 2:9, "That women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array."

4.) Not presume to verbally contribute upon common issues.

Agreement with 1Tim. 2:11-12, "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjugation ... To be in silence."

5.) Not overtly expressing trivia and loud talk.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 3:11, "Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober."

6.) The Men are to be in charge of the house and home.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 3:12, "Let the Deacons be ... ruling their children and their own houses well."

It easily appears that Christian Apostle Paul and Muslim Taliban Men, although a bit too hairy and with limited chatting ability, in fact both understood women well. The Muslim Men have just refined and standardized the presentation of their women by using burkas, and by giving them work at their home environs to keep busy with. This actually is quite similar to The Proverbs 31 Woman we all like to see.

Certainly, no abuse of women is in order in spite of what emotionally intuitive they endeavors might excessively pursue. Her husband's wisdom with gentle reminders and helpful direction will always place a better outcome for the family. Fighting and shrieking never accomplish kindness for anyone.

This is one of the most perverted posts I’ve seen so far concerning women and what Scripture teaches. My recommendation is to look at the rest of scriptures concerning women and not just the ones concerning women in a particular church meeting. You really believe when Paul said women should keep quiet in church meant they couldn’t sing praise, say hello to other people etc? More like if they had questions about the teaching during the meeting to wait and ask their husbands later instead of during the meeting.

 

[Revoltingest]

Am I going to get dinged for rating the OP as funny?
It was hilarious, & I believe cleverly written as reductio ad absurdum.
I intend no insult.

 

[ChristineM]

Within its society, the Muslim Taliban places a strong plan of management of women.

1.) Not to be formally educated.

This is in agreement with Biblical 1 Cor. 14:35, "If they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home."

2.) Not be in any leadership in Churches.

Agreement with 1 Cor.14:34, "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak," and 1 Tim. 2:12, "But I suffer not a woman to teach, or to usurp authority over a man."

3.) Not display personal emhancements or jewelry.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 2:9, "That women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array."

4.) Not presume to verbally contribute upon common issues.

Agreement with 1Tim. 2:11-12, "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjugation ... To be in silence."

5.) Not overtly expressing trivia and loud talk.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 3:11, "Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober."

6.) The Men are to be in charge of the house and home.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 3:12, "Let the Deacons be ... ruling their children and their own houses well."

It easily appears that Christian Apostle Paul and Muslim Taliban Men, although a bit too hairy and with limited chatting ability, in fact both understood women well. The Muslim Men have just refined and standardized the presentation of their women by using burkas, and by giving them work at their home environs to keep busy with. This actually is quite similar to The Proverbs 31 Woman we all like to see.

Certainly, no abuse of women is in order in spite of what emotionally intuitive they endeavors might excessively pursue. Her husband's wisdom with gentle reminders and helpful direction will always place a better outcome for the family. Fighting and shrieking never accomplish kindness for anyone.

I am not going to respond to this ****, i have no intention of being banned from RF for what would be my typical response to misogynistic idiots

 

[Secret Chief]

Within its society, the Muslim Taliban places a strong plan of management of women.

1.) Not to be formally educated.

This is in agreement with Biblical 1 Cor. 14:35, "If they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home."

2.) Not be in any leadership in Churches.

Agreement with 1 Cor.14:34, "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak," and 1 Tim. 2:12, "But I suffer not a woman to teach, or to usurp authority over a man."

3.) Not display personal emhancements or jewelry.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 2:9, "That women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array."

4.) Not presume to verbally contribute upon common issues.

Agreement with 1Tim. 2:11-12, "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjugation ... To be in silence."

5.) Not overtly expressing trivia and loud talk.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 3:11, "Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober."

6.) The Men are to be in charge of the house and home.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 3:12, "Let the Deacons be ... ruling their children and their own houses well."

It easily appears that Christian Apostle Paul and Muslim Taliban Men, although a bit too hairy and with limited chatting ability, in fact both understood women well. The Muslim Men have just refined and standardized the presentation of their women by using burkas, and by giving them work at their home environs to keep busy with. This actually is quite similar to The Proverbs 31 Woman we all like to see.

Certainly, no abuse of women is in order in spite of what emotionally intuitive they endeavors might excessively pursue. Her husband's wisdom with gentle reminders and helpful direction will always place a better outcome for the family. Fighting and shrieking never accomplish kindness for anyone.

This is outrageous. How can you be "too hairy" ?

 

[Meow Mix]

How is it what they do "opression"? Just because they dont share secular values? I mean, secularism can be pretty opressive for true believers too.

Can you give some examples of how secularism is oppressive for believers?

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Within its society, the Muslim Taliban places a strong plan of management of women.

1.) Not to be formally educated.

This is in agreement with Biblical 1 Cor. 14:35, "If they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home."

2.) Not be in any leadership in Churches.

Agreement with 1 Cor.14:34, "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak," and 1 Tim. 2:12, "But I suffer not a woman to teach, or to usurp authority over a man."

3.) Not display personal emhancements or jewelry.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 2:9, "That women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array."

4.) Not presume to verbally contribute upon common issues.

Agreement with 1Tim. 2:11-12, "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjugation ... To be in silence."

5.) Not overtly expressing trivia and loud talk.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 3:11, "Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober."

6.) The Men are to be in charge of the house and home.

Agreement with 1 Tim. 3:12, "Let the Deacons be ... ruling their children and their own houses well."

It easily appears that Christian Apostle Paul and Muslim Taliban Men, although a bit too hairy and with limited chatting ability, in fact both understood women well. The Muslim Men have just refined and standardized the presentation of their women by using burkas, and by giving them work at their home environs to keep busy with. This actually is quite similar to The Proverbs 31 Woman we all like to see.

Certainly, no abuse of women is in order in spite of what emotionally intuitive they endeavors might excessively pursue. Her husband's wisdom with gentle reminders and helpful direction will always place a better outcome for the family. Fighting and shrieking never accomplish kindness for anyone.

This is another great illustration of the moral failing of Divine Command Theory, or the belief that whatever the deity does or commands is good by definition. Those who do not consider either the Bible or Quran authoritative or its words of divine provenance look at those beliefs and judge them to be immoral.

But that is not possible with Divine Command Theory, where one begins with a received moral judgment accepted as moral on faith and by definition. It is impossible for such a person to judge anything his god does as immoral. He must find a way to rationalize that even though these policies seem oppressive, arbitrary, unfair, and life-limiting for women - the things that lead others to judge them immoral - they must somehow represent goodness and be just.

Just as faith in existential claims (assertions offered as facts about what is true) requires suppressing innate reasoning when reason suggest that they are incorrect, so the acquisition of moral values by faith from a static, external source requires suppression of the innate moral faculty, or moral compass.