It was only a matter of time

[Stanyon]

Unsavory visions of a gun fetish and gun fetishists sprang to mind. Please forgive.

Maybe this will help you set down that sack of bricks:
For all- do not open if you are just going to complain about it but you probably will anyway.

Spoiler

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Your question was:


According to the story Cain most likely killed Abel somewhere shortly after 4000 B.C. and using rocks or stones as weapons was a common tactic in warfare for centuries around the world and to this day stoning is still a legal form of execution in some countries. Were/are there records of all the mass stonings and rockings over the span of all those years? probably not so we will never really know how many multiple casualty rockings there have been or when.



It would only be useful to answer that question by listing all incidents worldwide with and without firearms also listing the gun control laws of each nation and the details into the specific circumstances of each individual case. That is a lot of research to do and I fully encourage you to compile that information and post it here for peer review.

Obfusctory non-response noted.

 

[Stanyon]

Obfusctory non-response noted.

For a truly useful, informative, and unbiased answer to your question there are many things that must be taken into consideration and much research to be done, one could write entire books about the history of using various weapons to kill other human beings.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

For a truly useful, informative, and unbiased answer to your question there are many things that must be taken into consideration and much research to be done, one could write entire books about the history of using various weapons to kill other human beings.

Great. Irrelevant to anything being discussed here, of course.

 

[Stanyon]

The comparative stats, both domestically and internationally, speak for themselves, so maybe do some studying. [google "comparative gun control studies"] OTOH, if you just want to believe in the NRA fairy-tales, that's clearly your choice.

The NRA isn't the only pro-gun organization out there but they definitely seem the most powerful since so many are quick to blame them and consider them the enemy instead of the factors, influences, and personal decisions that have led up to certain people pulling the trigger on someone else.

 

[Stanyon]

Great. Irrelevant to anything being discussed here, of course.

I gave completely concise, relevant, and truthful statements to the questions you posed.

 

[metis]

The NRA isn't the only pro-gun organization out there but they definitely seem the most powerful since so many are quick to blame them and consider them the enemy instead of the factors, influences, and personal decisions that have led up to certain people pulling the trigger on someone else.

"Opinions" are not necessarily "facts", and it's obvious that you would rather not do the research, which is your choice of course. Therefore, there's no where to go any further on this.

 

[Stanyon]

there's no where to go any further on this.

It is common for researchers to come to different conclusions, opinions are not necessarily facts.

 

[Milton Platt]

Britain has a knife crime problem that puts American gun crime to shame. People will use anything to try to kill others.

If this means we will do more for mental health in the USA, hey it would be at least more effective than more bureaucratic gun regulation bloat that isn't enforced right half the time anyway because no one can understand it.

But of course guns are easy to blame, people like easy scapegoats. The truth is always more complex than that. Better enforcement of existing regulations and fixing loopholes would do good to stop these kinds of atrocities but so would more funding into mental health, reducing it's stigma or countless other things within our society. If the guy had so many issues and was discharged and all that, background checks should of cleared that up. And if it didn't, I bet it's due to a loophole.

Britain has more knife crimes (this statistic includes any sharp or pointed object) but the Us also has a high knife crime rate. When you add the US knife crime to the US gun crime rate, the composite greatly exceeds the composite figures for Britain.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Putting the blame on mental health issue is no less inane than blaming the fact that he had two arms. Of course he had mental health issues. Anyone who slaughters people does.

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Right but in light of the situation wording matters. Gang shootings happen all the time but it is never considered a matter of mental health, it is a matter of "their culture."

 

[Thief]

When was the last time there was a multiple casualty mass rocking incident?

Sampson killed with the jawbone of an ***. "0)

ok...so it wasn't a rock when Sampson got on with it

 

[Skwim]

Right but in light of the situation wording matters. Gang shootings happen all the time but it is never considered a matter of mental health, it is a matter of "their culture."

Not talking about gang shootings, but rather major/mass shootings.

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[Augustus]

You didn't account for stabbings, just fatalities directly resulting from them.

I didn't account for non fatal shootings either. But, just for fun let's pretend that there are zero additional shootings.

Seeing as the shortfall is around 7500 deaths, how many stabbings are necessary to justify your point about how British knife crime being far worse than US gun crime? 1 homicide = how many non fatal stabbings?

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Not talking about gang shootings, but rather major/mass shootings.

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Again it goes back to the wording? Do you not think drive by shootings can cause massive casualties? There have been gangs who have went to the funerals of theri deceased rivals and have shot it up? Why would they do this? I see no difference between gang shootings that cause massive casualties and one man causing massive casualties other than hatred for their target. This brings me back to my point about the perception in the media where if there are gang shootings the media portrays it as cultural whereas when it's done solo it is psychological.

 

[Notanumber]

Has a NRA member has ever committed a rampage shooting?

 

[PureX]

The 307th mass shooting in the U.S.A. so far this year. And the year is not over, yet.

 

[metis]

It is common for researchers to come to different conclusions, opinions are not necessarily facts.

If one uses that as their base, then one simply cannot believe in anything because there's always going to be some questioning.

The research is quite consistent on this, and I'm inclined to go with what they have largely concluded rather than take the "all is in vain" approach whereas nothing can be decided and nothing gets done.

 

[Thief]

The 307th mass shooting in the U.S.A. so far this year. And the year is not over, yet.

I noted, mass shooting is not altogether fatal
several points note injury and no fatality

 

[PureX]

I noted, mass shooting is not altogether fatal
several points note injury and no fatality

This matters how?

 

[Thief]

This matters how?

I suppose your point can remain sharp enough
after all, pulling the trigger indicates intent to kill?