Italy 50% mortality rate with COVID-19

[Cooky]

Indeed. Total deaths divided by total cases yields about 7.2% death rate.

Don't know how Landon did his calculations.

You're misleading yourself by including "total cases"... FORGET total cases...

Bottom line is 50% recover and 50% die.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Even according to your own chart, 1,266 have died and 1439 have recovered... That's about a 50% mortality rate.

There have been 17,000 cases so far. You say 1439 have recovered, 1266 have died. What is the status of the other 14,000 cases then? Limbo?

 

[columbus]

Keep in mind that with testing capability lagging demand for tests, there is much more likelihood of testing in very ill patients, who will have a high mortality rate, than those with minor flu-like or cold-like symptoms.

That's a sampling bias. There are likely many undiagnosed survivers, but few undiagnosed fatalities or severe illnesses.

Stop ruining his rant.

It's fun to watch!

Tom

 

[Cooky]

There have been 17,000 cases so far. You say 1439 have recovered, 1266 have died. What is the status of the other 14,000 cases then? Limbo?

Still infected! Waiting to see!

Regardless, at this rate, which I've been tracking, 50% live, 50% die.

 

[Cooky]

Someone please tell me what the RECOVERY rate is in Italy?

Try that for perspective..!

 

[dfnj]

Even according to your own chart, 1,266 have died and 1439 have recovered... That's about a 50% mortality rate.

Somebody failed math class in high school.

Italy Coronavirus: 17,660 Cases and 1,266 Deaths - Worldometer

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

...It appears the coronavirus is taking lives at an increasing rate. I don't know if the CDC is not wanting us to know this, the death toll seems substantially higher in Europe than was reported in China.

Italy closes bars, restaurants and most shops as coronavirus death toll jumps 30%

Coronavirus Italy: death toll leaps 23% in a day to over 15,000 | Daily Mail Online

Please be more careful, @Landon Caeli because your numbers are not correctly stated, and is basically scare-mongering.

Yes, the number of deaths in Italy went up 23%, but that is not the same thing as how many who are infected are likely to do -- that number is certainly much lower. It looks like it might be 3%, but it's almost certainly not even that high -- because while it is easy to count how many dead people there, are, nobody really knows how many COVID-19 infections there are. That number is almost certainly considerably higher than the number that have been identified so far.

So in fact, the death toll is more likely to be 1%, or even less. I submitted to spine surgery with worse odds than that, and I'm still here.

 

[Cooky]

Somebody failed math class in high school.

Italy Coronavirus: 17,660 Cases and 1,266 Deaths - Worldometer

No, you cannot include the numbers of those who are still infected, because their outcome is undetermined. You can only count on those who have recovered or died. You're misleading yourself.

...Unless you can explain why we should consider incomplete cases in our net numbers.

 

[dfnj]

Someone please tell me what the RECOVERY rate is in Italy?

Try that for perspective..!

What you are crying wolf about is recovered means discharged from the hospital. It's not part of the percentage.

Top number: 17660 Bottom number: 1439

Percentage: 1439 / 17660 * 100 = 8.1 % (still very high but 50%)

Please stop making the panic worse than it is.

 

[Cooky]

Somebody failed math class in high school.

Italy Coronavirus: 17,660 Cases and 1,266 Deaths - Worldometer

Please tell me what the RECOVERY rate in Italy is.

 

[Cooky]

What you are crying wolf about is recovered means discharged from the hospital. It's not part of the percentage.

Top number: 17660 Bottom number: 1439

Percentage: 1439 / 17660 * 100 = 8.1 % (still very high but 50%)

Please stop making the panic worse than it is.

Please tell me the RECOVERY rate.

 

[Cooky]

Please be more careful, @Landon Caeli because your numbers are not correctly stated, and is basically scare-mongering.

Yes, the number of deaths in Italy went up 23%, but that is not the same thing as how many who are infected are likely to do -- that number is certainly much lower. It looks like it might be 3%, but it's almost certainly not even that high -- because while it is easy to count how many dead people there, are, nobody really knows how many COVID-19 infections there are. That number is almost certainly considerably higher than the number that have been identified so far.

So in fact, the death toll is more likely to be 1%, or even less. I submitted to spine surgery with worse odds than that, and I'm still here.

Please tell me the recovery rate for Italy.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Here's a professional look at the spread -- and it is easy to see that those countries that got hit badly by SARS learned from it, and are containing the spread very well. Canada is one of those.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

 

[Spirit of Light]

Please tell me what the RECOVERY rate in Italy is.

Out of 15,300 in italy with corona 1016 dead and 1258 recovered.

15300
-1016
-1258
=13026 so it is still 13026 sick people in italy and they are still getting new people in who has become sick of corona

 

[dfnj]

Please tell me what the RECOVERY rate in Italy is.

"Recovery" in this context, 1439, are people who left the hospital have having it. You can't use this number in your percentage of deaths.

Italy Coronavirus: 17,660 Cases and 1,266 Deaths - Worldometer

Top number: 17660 Bottom number: 1266

Percentage: 1277 / 17660 * 100 = 7.1 % (still alarmingly very high but not 50%)

Yes, of course more people can die from the virus from the 17660. There may be some truth to what you are saying. But as of yet we do not know who of the remaining 16394 will die. You can't calculate the effective rate of death since not everyone is getting the virus at the same time. And not everyone has been tested so the top line numbers are probably larger making the percentage smaller.

 

[Cooky]

Out of 15,300 in italy with corona 1016 dead and 1258 recovered.

15300
-1016
-1258
=13026 so it is still 13026 sick people in italy and they are still getting new people in who has become sick of corona

Indeed. An ongoing 50% mortality rate.

 

[Wu Wei]

Indeed. A 50% mortality rate in Norway too.

How do you come to that 50% figure? Norway has 621 infected and only 1 death. You are basing this on fear, not reality.

 

[Cooky]

There may be some truth to what you are saying.

Thank you!

 

[Cooky]

How do you come to that 50% figure? Norway has 621 infected and only 1 death. You are basing this on fear, not reality.

Because we can only go off competed cases. Not ongoing ones.

In time, if this rate continues, half of everyone who catches COVID-19 will have died. And half will have lived.

...Because we cannot include active, incomplete cases.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Indeed. An ongoing 50% mortality rate.

What about the 13.026 people who are sick? why do you not count them? they will be a part of the statistic either as healthy or dead, so they should be counted too