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It's said Jesus' sacrificed himself to save us...
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outhouse
Atheistically
My belief has nothing to do with my passion for these text, and the valuable lessons and morals they contain.
Im in search of the truth.
My lack of belief only offers the "possibility" that my work here will not be influenced by theistic bias that often perverts the truth.
outhouse
Atheistically
How does a Professor know more then his students?
Ok I understand. The Professor only knows more than his students while they are being taught. Also there are some students that are smarter than their Professor.
Also we are not talking about for example the study of science! We may find the text book (bible) has some errors in translation. Some of it need to be taken literally, some not so much. Some need to be taken in context with other parts in order to make sense. My view is a big part of understanding the scriptures comes from God himself. Also many people have pre conceived ideas/doctrine before they even start their study/research.
Also we are not talking about for example the study of science! We may find the text book (bible) has some errors in translation. Some of it need to be taken literally, some not so much. Some need to be taken in context with other parts in order to make sense. My view is a big part of understanding the scriptures comes from God himself. Also many people have pre conceived ideas/doctrine before they even start their study/research.
The bible itself warns us against believing in "teachings" from men!!! So we need to be careful about that. The whole world is controlled by Satan and we need to understand that he is very powerful and intelligent. His purpose is to mislead us and he will use any way/means that he can.
outhouse
Atheistically
No.
Your question is fallacious.
Its possible that any student may possess a higher intellect. But hat is not an indication of knowledge.
Sorry it may not work the way you think it does.
For all purposes, we could say that is the same as being completely uneducated on the topic.
Example
I can prove no god has taught you anything of value sir.
Can you explain the parable of the mustard seed without looking it up? from the top of you head, what does it mean????????????????????
outhouse
Atheistically
Unsubstantiated rhetoric sir
So we should all remain as dumb as dirt and refuse mans education? who the hell will operate on you? Who will drill your teeth?
Your priest or pastor or father had to be taught by man, so your fallacy factually does not fly sir.
Ty again?
Unsubstantiated rhetoric sir
Unsubstantiated rhetoric sir
outhouse
Atheistically
Newone
Please be careful in what you say, your making good theist look bad. Your providing examples of fanaticism and fundamentalism.
Not all Christians think like you do. Try and remember your view does not apply to all.
many Christians embrace mans teachings that factually give us a better understanding of these ancient text.
Sample Chapter for Levine, A., Allison, D., Jr., Crossan, J.D., eds.: The Historical Jesus in Context.
We cannot always determine which came first: a historical event or a literary creation. In some cases, Jesus may have been influenced by the scriptures of Judaism (e.g., the miracle-working prophets such as Elijah and Elisha, the suffering servant described by the prophet Isaiah, the apocalyptic “son of man” mentioned by Daniel as well as 1 Enoch), as well as by Jewish accounts of martyrs, teachers, prophets, sages, and visionaries; yet it is equally possible that his followers, themselves steeped in these accounts, conformed their understanding of Jesus according to these narrative models. In other cases, those who told stories about him may have drawn from the rich traditions of the Greek and Roman worlds, from Homer to Aesop to Apollonius of Tyana and Apuleius of Madauros. In teaching and debating, Jesus would have used forms familiar to his audiences, such as parables and appeals to legal tradition or practice. Further, his audiences would have drawn upon this same repertoire in order to understand him.
Please be careful in what you say, your making good theist look bad. Your providing examples of fanaticism and fundamentalism.
Not all Christians think like you do. Try and remember your view does not apply to all.
many Christians embrace mans teachings that factually give us a better understanding of these ancient text.
Sample Chapter for Levine, A., Allison, D., Jr., Crossan, J.D., eds.: The Historical Jesus in Context.
We cannot always determine which came first: a historical event or a literary creation. In some cases, Jesus may have been influenced by the scriptures of Judaism (e.g., the miracle-working prophets such as Elijah and Elisha, the suffering servant described by the prophet Isaiah, the apocalyptic “son of man” mentioned by Daniel as well as 1 Enoch), as well as by Jewish accounts of martyrs, teachers, prophets, sages, and visionaries; yet it is equally possible that his followers, themselves steeped in these accounts, conformed their understanding of Jesus according to these narrative models. In other cases, those who told stories about him may have drawn from the rich traditions of the Greek and Roman worlds, from Homer to Aesop to Apollonius of Tyana and Apuleius of Madauros. In teaching and debating, Jesus would have used forms familiar to his audiences, such as parables and appeals to legal tradition or practice. Further, his audiences would have drawn upon this same repertoire in order to understand him.
outhouse
Atheistically
The bible says a lot of things that are not accurate.
The books were written by men, yet you say not to follow teachings of men. Where is the logic sir ?
outhouse
Atheistically
How do you know im not inspired by god?
Can you explain the parable of the mustard seed without looking it up? from the top of you head, what does it mean????????????????????
outhouse
Atheistically
Nor anyone else in this debate section.
You should stay in the same faith sections, where you don't have to substantiate your claims.
outhouse
Atheistically
Yet you cannot explain this parable below. So your god has taught you nothing at all?
Can you explain the parable of the mustard seed without looking it up? from the top of you head, what does it mean????????????????????
Domenic
Active Member
Outhouse,
You have no idea who on this forum has an education, or to what level. I'd bet all you have is a GED from high school, and it ends there. Many have gone to college, and still have a very low IQ. Give yourself a break...the more you post, the more you it shows your lack of brain power. Stop doing this to yourself.
Shak34
Active Member
Maybe a what? What else could be posting here?
outhouse
Atheistically
So then, what Professor have you studied biblical studies under?
Its not about IQ though. Im not talking about a general education. I am talking about a biblical education in context.