I've Been Warning Y'all....Many Low Skill Jobs Will Soon Disappear

[Revoltingest]

Education, humanitarian services and military are key. This would be an opportunity to move people in a better direction.

We need to open up higher education to everyone, free of charge. We need to revamp k - 12 education. There is no reason we can't train mass amounts of highly skilled people. Advanced degrees should no longer just be for the few. It should be normal for everyone to have a higher education and a specialty. Even if they never use it. This would also create many jobs in education.

Creating jobs which don't do anything useful isn't productive.
But when the robots do nearly everything, perhaps we can afford hiring Sociology professors
to give people degrees in International Diversity Studies. (Yes, that's a real degree...Howard U.)

 

[Thief]

and haggis 101

 

[Thief]

I used to hear......find a need and fill it

and you would think ...with 7billion needy people scratching for substance....
somebody would know what to do

 

[Revoltingest]

and haggis 101

A well prepared haggis is a thing of beauty!

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Creating jobs which don't do anything useful isn't productive.
But when the robots do nearly everything, perhaps we can afford hiring Sociology professors
to give people degrees in International Diversity Studies. (Yes, that's a real degree...Howard U.)

"Creating jobs which don't do anything useful isn't productive.

Education for the sake of education is productive. For no other reason then the fact we are educating people.

Besides education will create more jobs in many different areas, and it has always proven to be a sound investment in the past. If we have a bunch of people sitting around doing nothing because they can't get a job then we are better off sending them to school anyways.

"Sociology professors
to give people degrees in International Diversity Studies"

Because clearly that is what everyone will be learning. If you still need to go out and work then the job market will still drive the type of education people get. We could even make more positions within the government and military dependent on education. But even if they do get a degree that is not that helpful they still received an education and we can set new standards for the core classes.

 

[Thief]

"Creating jobs which don't do anything useful isn't productive.

Education for the sake of education is productive. For no other reason then the fact we are educating people.

Besides education will create more jobs in many different areas, and it has always proven to be a sound investment in the past. If we have a bunch of people sitting around doing nothing because they can't get a job then we are better off sending them to school anyways.

"Sociology professors
to give people degrees in International Diversity Studies"

Because clearly that is what everyone will be learning. If you still need to go out and work then the job market will still drive the type of education people get. We could even make more positions within the government and military dependent on education.

can't agree.....
you are over-qualified....
no job for you

 

[Revoltingest]

"Creating jobs which don't do anything useful isn't productive.
Education for the sake of education is productive. For no other reason then the fact we are educating people.

Education is usually, but not inherently useful, eg, astrology, divinity degrees.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Education is usually, but not inherently useful, eg, astrology, divinity degrees.

As I pointed out in that post you quoted, the job market would still drive the degrees, and people would still have to learn math, English, science, social science, fine arts, communications and whatever else we select as a core requirements; regardless of degree.

You are going on about a few select degrees as if that invalidates the need for education all by itself, but it does not work that way and there are far more beneficial degrees than the select few you are going on about. What about STEM degrees?

 

[Jeremiahcp]

can't agree.....
you are over-qualified....
no job for you

"can't agree....."

somehow.....
i am not.....
surprised

 

[Thief]

As I pointed out in that post you quoted, the job market would still drive the degrees, and people would still have to learn math, English, science, social science, fine arts, communications and whatever else we select as a core requirements; regardless of degree.

You are going on about a few select degrees as if that invalidates the need for education all by itself, but it does not work that way and there are far more beneficial degrees than the select few you are going on about. What about STEM degrees? Did you somehow forget those exist? Or does that not supp

saw a woman interviewed for a news report about this topic
she was a teacher and could speak six languages....having a masters degree

over qualified to keep her job

let go and replaced by a lesser degree holder

 

[Jeremiahcp]

saw a woman interviewed for a news report about this topic
she was a teacher and could speak six languages....having a masters degree

over qualified to keep her job

let go and replaced by a lesser degree holder

Replaced by a degree holder you say. . . .

 

[Revoltingest]

As I pointed out in that post you quoted, the job market would still drive the degrees, and people would still have to learn math, English, science, social science, fine arts, communications and whatever else we select as a core requirements; regardless of degree.

You are going on about a few select degrees as if that invalidates the need for education all by itself, but it does not work that way and there are far more beneficial degrees than the select few you are going on about. What about STEM degrees?

"Going on"?
No.....you misunderstand.
I'm pointing out that much education is wasted effort.
And some isn't wasted, but it's more hobby/recreation, eg, art history.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Is it alright if I find it ridiculous that I have to argue the benefits of education?

 

[Thief]

Replaced by a degree holder you say. . . .

sure....why pay higher wages to a masters
when an associate can teach the course

 

[Thief]

Is it alright if I find it ridiculous that I have to argue the benefits of education?

go for it
my son in law is flipping hamburgers
has a degree

 

[Jeremiahcp]

"Going on"?
No.....you misunderstand.
I'm pointing out that much education is wasted effort.
And some isn't wasted, but it's more hobby/recreation, eg, art history.

"I'm pointing out that much education is wasted effort."

While ignoring that little thing we call core requirements.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

go for it
my son in law is flipping hamburgers
has a degree

So? Did I ever say a having a degree should automatically give you a job where you use that degree?

 

[Revoltingest]

"I'm pointing out that much education is wasted effort."
While ignoring that little thing we called core requirements.

It's amazing how high school & even college grads can't do simple math applications in the real world.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

It's amazing how high school & even college grads can't do simple math.

It is, and as I said we need to fix that. I said in post #219, "We need to revamp k - 12 education." and in post #225 "we can set new standards for the core classes." and in post #228 " whatever else we select as a core requirements."

What is truly amazing is how much money we spend on the military and how little we spend on education. No wait, amazing is not the right word, shameful, that is the word I am looking for.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

If you have a lower class that can't get jobs because they are not skilled enough, then, I am sorry, but you need to give them a path out of the lower class, and that path is education or public service. Otherwise only the middle class and the upper class will be able to afford an education that will give them the skills they need to enter the work force.