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January 6th, Just What Was It?

Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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wellwisher said:
Anyone with common sense would have known the Democrats were running another scam, after Pelosi removed two Republicans from the Jan 6 committee. They asked good questions, such why she did not accept the help before the riot happened? She replaced them with two Trump haters, who wanted to railroad Trump, and were willing to go along with the fiction and kangaroo count. Q'Anon was jailed as a special effect; add credibility, to make the con look more convincing. They did the same thing to many people during the Russian Collusion Coup; General Flynn.

Jan 6, was a protest to complain about how the election was not legitimate, since the Swamp had Twitter and Social Media was running Democrat censorship and interference; Hunter Biden Story. The Dems needed to create the illusion something sinister was happening from this protest, to cover their latest crimes. Once again they took the offense to force others on the defense, who were not pretend to be railroaded, for being innocent. I hope there are civil suits against the democrats leaders. Jail time would also be good.

You will eventually see is the Swamp FBI instigating the Capital invasion, to better fit the narrative. These characters were never rounded up even with video evidence. This video had been shown a fews day after Jan 6, but was later suppressed by social media after that. Google search even stopped linking. The fix was in. Let the new con begin.
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As always citation needed.

And you seem to have forgotten who "the Swamp" is. It is not the Democrats. You lose credibility when you argue that way.
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

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Revoltingest said:
Oh, you believe one drunken gadfly, but not several
dozen courts who found no merit to Republican
suits claiming fraud? Even after a Wayne County
court dismissed her claims as unsupported?
It must be that George Soros now controls Detroit.
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Ooooh wait a minute, are we talking about that drunken lady that Sydney Powell brought in as some kind of witness. She was blathering on about nonsense? That lady?
 
Colt

Colt

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Shaul

Shaul

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SkepticThinker said:
Nope. You guys are always going on about Hillary's emails, Hunter Biden's emails, blah, blah. We've got clear-cut evidence in the form of e-mails and sworn testimony that Fox News has been knowingly and willfully lying to its viewers for years now. They are not a credible source of accurate information because they just make things up.

The source here is Tucker Carlson and Fox News. You do know that videos can be edited and manipulated, right?
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We are talking about the January 6th videos. They were supplied to Fox News by House Speaker McCarthy. Fact.
 
Shaul

Shaul

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Look at all the pathetic attempts at misdirection. The issue isn't Fox News or Tucker Carlson. It isn't. It is the January 6th videos that have been released by House Speaker McCarthy. The videos explode and expose as lies the false narratives that have been peddled about January 6th.
 
Jose Fly

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
Shaul said:
Look at all the pathetic attempts at misdirection. The issue isn't Fox News or Tucker Carlson. It isn't. It is the January 6th videos that have been released by House Speaker McCarthy. The videos explode and expose as lies the false narratives that have been peddled about January 6th.
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What the heck is wrong with you?

Tucker Carlson broadcast a series of video clips from Jan. 6 and made some very specific claims. Those claims have been shown to be false. I guess that doesn't matter to you.

And on top of that, you now accuse others of peddling "false narratives"?

Wow....just.....wow.
 
Augustus

Augustus

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Kenny said:
WHEN are police supposed to escort a violator around and even test doors? If he is the only one in between 5+ policemen - WHY was he not handcuffed? Appearance says, and additional info supports, it was a contrived effort to let them do it!
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There are many other explanations:

1. Incompetence (we know many police officers are incompetent)
2. They don't know what to do as there is poor leadership and they are outnumbered and feel threatened and are making it up as they go along. They are checking doors are locked and guiding the invaders away from more sensitive areas.
3. They have been told not to arrest people as it would escalate the situation and they have already lost control
4. They have been told to try to defuse the situation peacefully and are guiding the invaders away from more sensitive areas
5. They are pro-Trump and support the protestors (The post-George Floyd police probably aren't overly supportive of progressive causes after all).
6. Something else

What makes you think the best possible explanation is "a massive secret conspiracy by thousands of people across dozens of organisations to overthrow the US government" given large numbers of humans, especially those in government/politics are notoriously incapable of keeping things secret?
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Augustus said:
There are many other explanations:

1. Incompetence (we know many police officers are incompetent)
2. They don't know what to do as there is poor leadership and they are outnumbered and feel threatened and are making it up as they go along. They are checking doors are locked and guiding the invaders away from more sensitive areas.
3. They have been told not to arrest people as it would escalate the situation and they have already lost control
4. They have been told to try to defuse the situation peacefully and are guiding the invaders away from more sensitive areas
5. They are pro-Trump and support the protestors (The post-George Floyd police probably aren't overly supportive of progressive causes after all).
6. Something else

What makes you think the best possible explanation is "a massive secret conspiracy by thousands of people across dozens of organisations to overthrow the US government" given large numbers of humans, especially those in government/politics are notoriously incapable of keeping things secret?
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There was a conspiracy. But I would not call it a massive conspiracy. Certain small groups were shown to have conspired in this event. The authorities, and even Trump seemed to be aware of that. Do you remember that Trump did not want metal detectors to be used since the armed people were on his side? I can quote and link if necessary. I think that the authorities were at the least very suspicious that there would be such people in the crowd.

I think that what was not anticipated was the Trump would roil up his followers, most of which were not conspirators, they were merely useful idiots, and get them to storm the Capitol. That was beyond anyone's imagination at that time. Trump promised to march with them, and he would likely have "driven with them" if the Secret Service had not stopped him for his own good. Once there were in the incompetency of the conspirators was shown because they had no clue as to what to do after that.
 
Augustus

Augustus

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Subduction Zone said:
There was a conspiracy. But I would not call it a massive conspiracy. Certain small groups were shown to have conspired in this event. The authorities, and even Trump seemed to be aware of that. Do you remember that Trump did not want metal detectors to be used since the armed people were on his side? I can quote and link if necessary. I think that the authorities were at the least very suspicious that there would be such people in the crowd.

I think that what was not anticipated was the Trump would roil up his followers, most of which were not conspirators, they were merely useful idiots, and get them to storm the Capitol. That was beyond anyone's imagination at that time. Trump promised to march with them, and he would likely have "driven with them" if the Secret Service had not stopped him for his own good. Once there were in the incompetency of the conspirators was shown because they had no clue as to what to do after that.
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Should have used the term deep state/governmental conspiracy I suppose.

But the above shows how much information leaks out of any conspiracy of size, yet the Trumpista narrative assumes amazing secrecy regarding the Dem collusion with FBI, CIA, multiple police departments, news media, etc.
 
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