Subduction Zone
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And once again, most of them got fairly light sentences that reflected this. The big sentences probably applied to less than a tenth of them.
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January 6th, Just What Was It?
- Thread starter Kenny
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Mainly because:
Jan. 6 investigator says FBI could've done more to repel Capitol mob had they acted on intel
“Law enforcement had a very direct role in contributing to the security failures that led to the violence," said Tim Heaphy.
www.nbcnews.com
Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund's request for National Guard backup was denied, he says in interview
Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund says his requests for National Guard assistance before and during the riot were repeatedly turned down.
www.usatoday.com
Too many loop holes that just don't add up IMO
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You need to properly support your accusations if you want to be taken seriously.
And what lies about the police officer? The one that died may have been due to the riot, but that was not conclusively proven. They may have overstated the case, but that is not "lying".
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You mean to say that you give more authority to
a court judgement than to a random talking head?
I don't know that this is permitted on RF.
False. They never should have been there to protest a fair election result. They were lied to and were too gullible to know better. They broke the law and now they are paying for it. Many admit they foolishly trusted Trump. It was their poor judgment to ever trust a twice impeached conman.
Never under-estimate the prevalence & power of incompetence & error.
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
That's exactly what Capitol Police Chief Thomas Manger said in his statement regarding Carlson's dishonesty....
"Manger criticized Carlson for falsely claiming that Capitol Police officers helped the mob of former President Donald Trump's supporters and acted as "tour guides," calling the accusation "outrageous and false."
"I don't have to remind you how outnumbered our officers were on January 6," he wrote. "Those officers did their best to use de-escalation tactics to try to talk rioters into getting each other to leave the building."
But I suspect none of this will matter to those who have put their faith in Tucker Carlson, a person who, as is documented, knowingly and intentionally lies to his viewers and suppresses the truth.
Like I keep saying...they really do live in an alternate reality.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
No one was "force fed" anything. Well perhaps you were. Trump supporters can be rather obnoxious in their defense of the indefensible.Wow.. how jumpity and touchy people get when something is different to what they were force fed.It's like they turn from a nice Dr Jekyll to a Mr. Hyde
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
What the heck is wrong with you?Wow.. how jumpity and touchy people get when something is different to what they were force fed.
You've been shown at least two specific instances where Carlson lies in his depictions of the events of Jan. 6. When I asked if that mattered to you, you just waved it away with "everything matters to me", as if his lies were no more important than what you had for dinner.
Further, you should know from being in this forum that Carlson is on record as knowingly and intentionally lying to his viewers (e.g., you) and suppressing the truth.
To repeat, this is just like dealing with creationists. No matter how many times they're shown that their sources aren't at all honest, they just keep going right back to them. It's truly bizarre to watch.
WOW! HOT is the word for sure.
next you will be saying this guy is innocent.
When the event took place, I was thousands of miles away. I wasn't there, so I don't really know what happened - other than what was being reported in the news, multiple sources. There was unlawful entry, property destruction, violence, many injuries, and a few deaths. All of the sources seem to agree on that part of it.
Some say they could have - and should have - had a larger force to guard the Capitol, since it should have been easy to anticipate the gathering and how ugly it could have been. So, there was definitely a screw-up there.
The main point of contention has been - at least as far as I can observe - was not over "what happened," but what it should be called - an insurrection or just a riot?
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
Dude, your desperation is getting weird. I know you'd really, really like to divert the thread away from the proven fact that Tucker Carlson lied in his depiction of Jan 6, and you'd really like to avoid any responsibility for propagating those lies, and maybe you'll get a few bored people to follow your red herrings....but not me.
Facts are stubborn things. Tucker Carlson lied, repeatedly. He's on record as acknowledging that he knowingly and intentionally lies to his viewers and suppresses truth. It's on record here that you have propagated his lies, and when faced with that fact have refused to admit responsibility.
It's positively fascinating to watch this sort of behavior from someone who claims to be a Christian.
That's a good question. Insurrection requires "armed resistance" and, as far as I know, no weapons were involved. Maybe riot would be more appropriate? Or an "occupy Capitol"?
What do you think?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I would say that it was an attempted insurrection by a minority of those that invaded the Capitol. Please note that most were not charged with insurrection. But being a useful idiot to those that are trying to overthrow the government, not matter how ridiculously unprepared they were to do so, still puts the lives of others at risk. In fact one of the rioters did die because she was part of an armed mob that was trying to break in. That she herself was unarmed was besides the point. It is rather difficult to pat down everyone and only arrest those that have weapons in such a situation.
Maybe you should change your avatar?
Can you please use a more reliable source?
weapon
wĕp′ən
noun
- An instrument of attack or defense in combat, as a gun, missile, or sword.
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
Sheesh, your desperation is getting downright pathetic. Since you've been shown facts that contradict your narrative, you've tried to distract, dodge, evade, ignore, and now joke your way out of it.Maybe you should change your avatar?
So much for striving to be Christ-like, eh?
