January 6th, Just What Was It?

[SkepticThinker]

The thread topic is about the Jan 6 riots, what really happened and the biased (D)'s who were picked by the wicked witch of the west coast to run the sham!

Being a woman, how do you feel about a man dressed up like a women getting an award for International Womans Day?

And that has what to do with the thread topic, exactly?

 

[Soandso]

This whole thread is one big yikes...

 

[Jose Fly]

And that has what to do with the thread topic, exactly?

 

[F1fan]

That means there is truth in what I said and you just don't like it! The Left wants everyone to stick to their carefully crafted script of reality. You should apply your assumptions to yourself.

Facts. You like some. You hate the rest.

The guy who fired at the softball game was mentally ill. Trying to refer to that as if it is equal to the actions of the Jan 6 rioters is absurd.

And the Jan 6 investigation was very well done, just like it was during the Nixon investigation, free from extremist representatives sabotaging the work.

 

[Colt]

And that has what to do with the thread topic, exactly?

I agree, Dr Jill Biden presenting a man dressed as a woman an award for national Womans day is so ridiculous that even the Left can't acknowledge it!

 

[Colt]

Facts. You like some. You hate the rest.

The guy who fired at the softball game was mentally ill. Trying to refer to that as if it is equal to the actions of the Jan 6 rioters is absurd.

And the Jan 6 investigation was very well done, just like it was during the Nixon investigation, free from extremist representatives sabotaging the work.

Not really, a bunch of the video was released which doesn't match the biased investigation at all.

 

[Ponder This]

That is not accurate. Chansley was a rioter. And almost certainly a violent one. By the way, though most of the BLM protests were peaceful, well over 90%, you did not hear about those because there is nothing more boring than a peaceful protest. Many of them did become riots. About 5% of them. And some of them were very violent riots. The riot on January 6 was unfortunately mostly idiots or spoiled brats that were angry because their candidate lost. By a lot. Chansley was one of the first 30 rioters to enter the building. One does not get into the forefront of an action like that without participating a bit. He made a plead deal and pled guilty. As a result he almost certainly got a lighter sentence than if he went to trial.

Posts misrepresent rioter’s actions in Jan. 6 Capitol attack

After Fox News host Tucker Carlson broadcast Jan. 6 security footage previously unseen by the public on his Monday night primetime show, social media users began sharing segments from his program that misrepresented Chansley’s involvement in the riot.

apnews.com

The closest thing to Chansley being violent is him being one of the first 30 to enter the building.
Chansley's lawyer has spoken out that the exculpatory video of Chansley was not provided to him despite the video having been requested and despite it being obligatory for it to be provided. As a result, it would seem that Chansley likely received a harsher sentence than if the complete evidence had been presented in court.

 

[F1fan]

I agree, Dr Jill Biden presenting a man dressed as a woman an award for national Womans day is so ridiculous that even the Left can't even acknowledge it!

Your prejudices are dying out. It’s no wonder that MAGAs are exploiting the bias if their base to attract attention and agreement.

Not really, a bunch of the video was released which doesn't match the biased investigation at all.

Oh you mean the cherry picked bits that Tucker Carlson presented to his followers. So you’re admitting to being manipulated and misinformed.

You’d think with thousands of hours of footage that Carlson would be showing the “evidence of tourists” for months on end. Instead most of the shows the last few days have been interviewing Russel Brand.

Not exactly a slam dunk.

The closest thing to Chansley being violent is him being one of the first 30 to enter the building.
Chansley's lawyer has spoken out that the exculpatory video of Chansley was not provided to him despite the video having been requested and despite it being obligatory for it to be provided. As a result, it would seem that Chansley likely received a harsher sentence than if the complete evidence had been presented in court.

The charges against him included interfering with an official meeting, and him being in front of the podium where pence was running the counting of votes IS what showed his guilt. How do you have any exculpatory evidence that he didn't interfere when he was videoed in the chamber!!? I susvect you are aware of Tucker Carlsons disinformation a few night ago and you don;t know enough to understand it was bogus. Carlson lies to his viewers. And many of his viewers have such low self-respect that they don't care they are getting played.

 

[Colt]

Your prejudices are dying out. It’s no wonder that MAGAs are exploiting the bias if their base to attract attention and agreement.

Oh you mean the cherry picked bits that Tucker Carlson presented to his followers. So you’re admitting to being manipulated and misinformed.

You’d think with thousands of hours of footage that Carlson would be showing the “evidence of tourists” for months on end. Instead most of the shows the last few days have been interviewing Russel Brand.

Not exactly a slam dunk.

The charges against him included interfering with an official meeting, and him being in front of the podium where pence was running the counting of votes IS what showed his guilt. How do you have any exculpatory evidence that he didn't interfere when he was videoed in the chamber!!? I susvect you are aware of Tucker Carlsons disinformation a few night ago and you don;t know enough to understand it was bogus. Carlson lies to his viewers. And many of his viewers have such low self-respect that they don't care they are getting played.

I’ve stated from the day after the Jan 6 riots that Trump and the perps are responsible for trashing our Capitol building. I don’t take any of the conspiracy claims seriously, but even if they were “set up” it’s their own idiot fault for falling for it. HOWEVER some of the video footage is strange, perhaps the explanation being that the police didn’t quite know what to do.

Trump lost bigly, fair and square. Any voter fraud didn’t come close to narrowing the wide margin.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The closest thing to Chansley being violent is him being one of the first 30 to enter the building.
Chansley's lawyer has spoken out that the exculpatory video of Chansley was not provided to him despite the video having been requested and despite it being obligatory for it to be provided. As a result, it would seem that Chansley likely received a harsher sentence than if the complete evidence had been presented in court.

I do not think that you know how to use the term "exculpatory" correctly. How was that video in the least exculpatory?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I’ve stated from the day after the Jan 6 riots that Trump and the perps are responsible for trashing our Capitol building. I don’t take any of the conspiracy claims seriously, but even if they were “set up” it’s their own idiot fault for falling for it. HOWEVER some of the video footage is strange, perhaps the explanation being that the police didn’t quite know what to do.

Trump lost bigly, fair and square. Any voter fraud didn’t come close to narrowing the wide margin.

The conspiracy was there. It was a boneheaded one that did not have a chance of succeeding, but that does not mean that it did not exist.

If a deranged fool tries to kill you but only gives you a scratch and ends up hurting himself far worse does that mean that he did not attempt murder?

There was a conspiracy. It was a really really stupid one. But we are talking about people that believed Trump's lies, so what do you expect?

 

[dybmh]

Look at all the pathetic attempts at misdirection. The issue isn't Fox News or Tucker Carlson. It isn't. It is the January 6th videos that have been released by House Speaker McCarthy. The videos explode and expose as lies the false narratives that have been peddled about January 6th.

How much of the videos have you actually seen?

 

[dybmh]

Mainly because:

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/11/955548910/ex-capitol-police-chief-rebuffs-claims-national-guard-was-never-called-during-ri

Jan. 6 investigator says FBI could've done more to repel Capitol mob had they acted on intel

“Law enforcement had a very direct role in contributing to the security failures that led to the violence," said Tim Heaphy.

www.nbcnews.com

Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund's request for National Guard backup was denied, he says in interview

Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund says his requests for National Guard assistance before and during the riot were repeatedly turned down.

www.usatoday.com

Too many loop holes that just don't add up IMO

I agree it's weird, reckless, and stupid. But I can't see any motive. Dems had everything to lose and nothing to gain by this. There was a plan by the Trump suppoerters to subvert the election results, and that plan was viable. Stop the certification of the election, flip the results... it might have worked. And it was very close to happening. One person with integrity, Mike Pence, did the right thing and made sure the certification of the results proceeded. It all came down to just one person. Why in the world would Dems push this to the brink intentionally? Isn't it much more likely they were just being dumb?

 

[dybmh]

Can you please use a more reliable source?

weapon

wĕp′ən

noun​

1. An instrument of attack or defense in combat, as a gun, missile, or sword.

Another poster brought a summary, but I think you deserve to see the raw data:

Capitol Breach Cases

www.justice.gov

Open the link in a browser, then search for the word "weapon".

 

[Subduction Zone]

Can you please use a more reliable source?

weapon

wĕp′ən

noun​

1. An instrument of attack or defense in combat, as a gun, missile, or sword.

I see that you still do not know how to vet your sources. NPR is one of the most reliable sources out there. You used a known liar in your OP and he was shown to be a liar on the first page of this thread.

If you were trying to make a joke it was an incredibly stupid one. It only made you look bad.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

That means there is truth in what I said and you just don't like it! The Left wants everyone to stick to their carefully crafted script of reality. You should apply your assumptions to yourself.

The above being a good example of your logic.

You can't defend January 6th, only tilt at windmills.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

The thread topic is about the Jan 6 riots, what really happened and the biased (D)'s who were picked by the wicked witch of the west coast to run the sham!

Being a woman, how do you feel about a man dressed up like a women getting an award for International Womans Day?

Dear god, are you physically incapable of sticking to one topic? You're so, SO desperate to avoid talking in any real way about January 6th. At every turn you flee with your tail between your legs.

 

[Colt]

Dear god, are you physically incapable of sticking to one topic? You're so, SO desperate to avoid talking in any real way about January 6th. At every turn you flee with your tail between your legs.

You bought into a carefully crafted narrative and are now all dramaqueenery about opposing views. I'm still here and haven't gone anywhere.

"Liars are touchy to the point of hysteria"

 

[Stevicus]

I agree it's weird, reckless, and stupid. But I can't see any motive. Dems had everything to lose and nothing to gain by this. There was a plan by the Trump suppoerters to subvert the election results, and that plan was viable. Stop the certification of the election, flip the results... it might have worked. And it was very close to happening. One person with integrity, Mike Pence, did the right thing and made sure the certification of the results proceeded. It all came down to just one person. Why in the world would Dems push this to the brink intentionally? Isn't it much more likely they were just being dumb?

It would not have worked. The Electoral College had already voted weeks earlier. The Electoral College was really their last chance, if they had any hope of trying to subvert the election. The certification on Jan. 6 was a mere formality. The military had already made its intentions clear that they would respect the process, and as it happened, they did go out to defend the Capitol once ordered.

I don't know that the Dems pushed things to the brink intentionally or that any of this was planned. However, it does seem clear that they seem to thrive on this kind of melodrama. Their entire approach to politics is one big appeal to emotionalism.

 

[Estro Felino]

It would not have worked. The Electoral College had already voted weeks earlier. The Electoral College was really their last chance, if they had any hope of trying to subvert the election. The certification on Jan. 6 was a mere formality. The military had already made its intentions clear that they would respect the process, and as it happened, they did go out to defend the Capitol once ordered.

I don't know that the Dems pushed things to the brink intentionally or that any of this was planned. However, it does seem clear that they seem to thrive on this kind of melodrama. Their entire approach to politics is one big appeal to emotionalism.

Of course. But in a parallel universe, let's say if the army and all law enforcement had backed the crowd, I doubt that the certification would have taken place.
Because the Congress is unarmed. The army is armed.