JD Vance - A Gift To Biden

[Twilight Hue]

Did you know the word gullible isn't in the dictionary?

I'd probably get a new dictionary.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Did you know the word gullible isn't in the dictionary?

I'd probably get a new dictionary.

 

[fantome profane]

I'd probably get a new dictionary.

Did you look it up?

 

[Revoltingest]

This deserves posting again....

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

It is convincing evidence, as long as you look at it objectively.

That is not how evidence works. You don't get to decide what is convincing or not to anyone else except yourself.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

There is plenty of good reason not to believe him. The things he said about Trump wouldn't have changed based on Trump's presidency. Trump didn't do anything that countered the bad things Vance said about him. In fact, Trump's presidency should have solidified the criticisms Vance had of him.

For instance, take that last one. That's the worst of them. According to him it's a media lie or distortion that Trump would be a terrible threat to democracy. Now, Vance is supporting Trump's big lie. He's fully on board with the insurrection and Trump's attempts to illegally overturn the election.

If you were skeptical of Trump early in his presidency, you'd still be skeptical (to put it mildly) now. Nothing he did would have changed that. If you thought he might be America's Hitler, then his presidency only confirmed that.

This is supremely unconvincing.

Ok, you have the right not to believe him.

 

[Magic Man]

That is not how evidence works. You don't get to decide what is convincing or not to anyone else except yourself.

That's not how this works. Someone with reasoning skills very much gets to point out what is convincing to other people able to reason without bias.

 

[Magic Man]

Ok, you have the right not to believe him.

Thanks! And you have the right to believe him due to your bias toward him and his side. I'll go ahead and not believe him due to my lack of that bias and my ability to see the situation objectively.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

That is not how evidence works. You don't get to decide what is convincing or not to anyone else except yourself.

And that, perhaps (being a characteristic of human nature) is why we prefer our juries to have many people (usually 12).

 

[Wandering Monk]

And that, perhaps (being a characteristic of human nature) is why we prefer our juries to have many people (usually 12).

All of whom need to be convinced to convict.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

All of whom need to be convinced to convict.

Yes, of course. But when they ALL get together in private, they quite regularly manage to arrive at a verdict. One might suspect that's because conversation between honest, decent people can sometimes (maybe more often than not) get the biases of just one or two of them under some control, using little more than reason.

 

[Kathryn]

Thanks! And you have the right to believe him due to your bias toward him and his side. I'll go ahead and not believe him due to my lack of that bias and my ability to see the situation objectively.

Well, we all have our biases, you included.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Well, we all have our biases, you included.

And is it possible to get past your biases? I think that's a really important question -- one that I've tried to answer all of my life (which perhaps explains my bias towards reason).

 

[Kathryn]

And is it possible to get past your biases? I think that's a really important question -- one that I've tried to answer all of my life (which perhaps explains my bias towards reason).

Who knows?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Who knows?

Well, I think that anyone who has actually tried might have some insights.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Vance urged DOJ to enforce Comstock Act, crack down on abortion pills​

MSN

 

[Magic Man]

Well, we all have our biases, you included.

Of course I do. Luckily, I can also recognize my biases and view situations accordingly. That way I can see situations like this one objectively.

 

[Kathryn]

Of course I do. Luckily, I can also recognize my biases and view situations accordingly. That way I can see situations like this one objectively.

Sorry but I think that's BS.

 

[Revoltingest]

‘Bizarre beliefs’ and ‘creepy friends’: Choosing JD Vance could be a costly mistake for Trump

While MAGA-loving Republicans celebrated Trump’s pick for running mate this week, so did Democrats. Andrew Feinberg reports on why the opposition believes Vance is such an easy target for their upcoming campaigns

www.yahoo.com

 

[Magic Man]

Sorry but I think that's BS.

I'm not surprised you do, but that doesn't change the veracity of it.