Jerusalem, the world's capital

[BSM1]

... you think building a casino on a Native reservation is (kinda) 'giving the land back'? Really?



If by "given to them" you mean 'not yet stolen', sure.



I actually think the land's original occupants (as in the people born on that land) were there before anybody else in today's world. That would include the people who have been illegally thrown out of their homes to make way for Jewish settlers. But that whole 'they were there first' argument, curiously, doesn't apply to them.



You have an attitude like this and you wonder why they keep fighting? What would have happened if various nations in Europe had just rolled over and utterly submitted during WW2? The complete annihilation of Europe's Jews, that's what. The survivors who went on to found Israel owed their lives to people who refused to submit to a tyrant pressing his boot down on their throats.

I'll try to answer your questions in order:

1. Absolutely. BTW how much of your yard have you given back?

2. No

3. You mean the Canaanites, whom the Israelis killed (every man, woman child, household pet, and farm animal) to establish the Hebrew nation?

4. So now that the "tryant" is back knocking on Israel's door you want the Israeli people to roll over and submit?

Gave the Gaza strip to the Arab????? It was their's in the first place!!

No, they stole it.

 

[Lyndon]

For a man who I believe calls himself an atheist, you sure do have a lot of faith in the Biblical accounts!!!

PS prior to the Jewish invasion of Palestine after the war, Jews Christians and Muslims lived in peace throughout the Middle East, there are now tyrants in and outside the Middle East, but the Israelis are one of the most outrageous tyrannical forces, and one of the most destabilizing forces in the Middle East, along with the Americans.

 

[FearGod]

No, they stole it.

From whom ?

 

[columbus]

PS prior to the Jewish invasion of Palestine after the war

What war?
You mean the one that Muslims launched against Israel?
The one where Allah gave such a huge victory to the Zionists that the Muslims are still complaining about it?

That war?
Or do you mean a different one?
Tom

 

[Lyndon]

WWII, ever heard of that war???? The war for Israel was started by British and Jews in 1948(which involved Jewish terrorists blowing up hotels and the likes), the war you're thinking about, Muslims trying to reclaim their rightful land was in 1967.

 

[metis]

PS prior to the Jewish invasion of Palestine after the war, Jews Christians and Muslims lived in peace throughout the Middle East,....

Apparently you think the history of the Middle East prior to the "invasion" is like that of a vacation spa, but maybe you should start reading here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East

 

[metis]

WWII, ever heard of that war???? The war for Israel was started by British and Jews in 1948(which involved Jewish terrorists blowing up hotels and the likes), the war you're thinking about, Muslims trying to reclaim their rightful land was in 1967.

Who says it was their rightful land, especially since you have contradicted yourself in regards to your "original occupants" story? Also, it's apparent that you don't realize that the region was settled long prior to the emergence of Islam, and that even after Islam emerged, Jews, Christians, and members of other faiths and nationalities also were there.

 

[Lyndon]

Yeah there are a lot of idiots living in Israel that don't believe Palestinians lived in Israel before the present Jews invaded.

 

[metis]

Yeah there are a lot of idiots living in Israel that don't believe Palestinians lived in Israel before the present jews invaded, tell me you're not one of them.........

The above itself reflects how little you really know, so keep digging yourself deeper and deeper into your hole. It's obvious you've never studied the region nor been there, but I'm sure you think of yourself as a highly-educated expert on the subject.

 

[Lyndon]

The above itself reflects how little you really know, so keep digging yourself deeper and deeper into your hole. It's obvious you've never studied the region nor been there, but I'm sure you think of yourself as a highly-educated expert on the subject.

I suggest you read the forum TOS.

 

[Flankerl]

This thread is evidence that the Israeli Jews are just as uncompromising and violent as the Palestinian Muslims.

Please cite the violence being done or promoted from Israeli Jews in this thread. Should be easy.

You have no evidence, The Assyrians might have been the original occupants.

But when Assyria became a real Empire the Egyptians had ruled the area for quite some time and it was basically the place where the Egyptians and Hittites would battle for dominance. You should really brush up on your knowledge about history.

Oh and I am still waiting for your answer as to where I can get such nice bottle rockets for new years.

Gave the Gaza strip to the Arab????? It was their's in the first place!!

Egypt would disagree at least till they realised that far too many maniacs live there.

PS prior to the Jewish invasion of Palestine after the war, Jews Christians and Muslims lived in peace throughout the Middle East

Yeah sure.

"On hearing screams in a room, I went up a sort of tunnel passage and saw an Arab in the act of cutting off a child's head with a sword. He had already hit him and was having another cut, but on seeing me he tried to aim the stroke at me, but missed; he was practically on the muzzle of my rifle. I shot him low in the groin. Behind him was a Jewish woman smothered in blood with a man I recognized as a[n Arab] police constable named Issa Sheriff from Jaffa. He was standing over the woman with a dagger in his hand. He saw me and bolted into a room close by and tried to shut me out-shouting in Arabic, "Your Honor, I am a policeman." ... I got into the room and shot him."

And yes Metis is basically the Methuselah of the Hill Top Youth. It is known.

You have an attitude like this and you wonder why they keep fighting? What would have happened if various nations in Europe had just rolled over and utterly submitted during WW2? The complete annihilation of Europe's Jews, that's what. The survivors who went on to found Israel owed their lives to people who refused to submit to a tyrant pressing his boot down on their throats.

True and because we are such good people we tried to make deals with the then Palestinian leadership which was largely the religious leadership.
Their most prominent leader even was a proper member of the NSDAP, the German Nazi party.
Just a neat info so that you know with what kind of people the evil Zionists had to deal with.

Oh and the security of European Jews was the last thing on everyones Agenda regarding WW2. It was just a bonus.

 

[FearGod]

The above itself reflects how little you really know, so keep digging yourself deeper and deeper into your hole. It's obvious you've never studied the region nor been there, but I'm sure you think of yourself as a highly-educated expert on the subject.

He knows the truth and rejects the lies.

 

[metis]

I suggest you read the forum TOS.

So, it's right and proper for you to insult Jews and blame them for just about anything and everything, but somehow I'm such a bad guy because I point of the fact that you make many mistakes on the history of the region? What's absolutely crazy is that the minute something flares up in Israel, it's always Israel's fault, according to you. We've seen this time and time again coming from your posts. Not only does this get really "old" after a while, but you make one mistake after another on the history and events of the region time and time again-- but that still never stops you from blaming Jews and Israel for it all.

 

[metis]

He knows the truth and rejects the lies.

Really?

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

I'll try to answer your questions in order:

1. Absolutely. BTW how much of your yard have you given back?

Since I don't live in America, nor do I own any property in America, none. Nice try.

2. No

So when did the Israeli government "give" land to the Palestinians who were already living on it and had done so for generations?

3. You mean the Canaanites, whom the Israelis killed (every man, woman child, household pet, and farm animal) to establish the Hebrew nation?

No, I mean the families who had been living there for generations who were made homeless when the Israeli government seized their property without due recourse.

4. So now that the "tryant" is back knocking on Israel's door you want the Israeli people to roll over and submit?

The Israeli government is the tyrant - they're occupying land that is not legally theirs and are restricting Palestinians' access to basic amenities like water. And there's the small issue of the Gaza Strip where Israel is collectively punishing civilians and preventing them from rebuilding their infrastructure.

No, they stole it.

Who did they steal it from?

 

[metis]

I'm aloud to say anything I want about Jews in Israel, but I'm not allowed to make personal attacks on forum members like you have been making on me. I'm allowed to attack what someone writes, but not the person that writes them, that's the forum rules, like em or not.

Saying that you need to study the region because you're making a lot of mistakes is not a "personal attack", and I actually tried to help you by providing you with a link to help you get into some studies.

 

[Brickjectivity]

The conflict between Israelis and Palestinians is always much more complicated than partisans on both sides would desperately like everyone to believe.

http://blogs.cfr.org/cook/2015/10/19/israelis-and-palestinians-and-then-what/
^<<(above)--- Pretty good, brief, explanation of the current situation I think posted on cfr.org

The current situation is unfortunate but not unexpected.

 

[FearGod]

Yeah sure.

"On hearing screams in a room, I went up a sort of tunnel passage and saw an Arab in the act of cutting off a child's head with a sword. He had already hit him and was having another cut, but on seeing me he tried to aim the stroke at me, but missed; he was practically on the muzzle of my rifle. I shot him low in the groin. Behind him was a Jewish woman smothered in blood with a man I recognized as a[n Arab] police constable named Issa Sheriff from Jaffa. He was standing over the woman with a dagger in his hand. He saw me and bolted into a room close by and tried to shut me out-shouting in Arabic, "Your Honor, I am a policeman." ... I got into the room and shot him."

And yes Metis is basically the Methuselah of the Hill Top Youth. It is known.

The Hebron massacre, the holocaust has more truth on it than the Hebron massacre, even the local people of Hebron didn't know what was going on, they protected
many Jews families in their own houses and i know some families that they did and having good relations with the Jews till our recent days.

The local people were surprised of whom attacked the Jews and they thought they came from the neighboring villages which surrounding
Hebron, people at that days were very simple and don't know about the invention of hoaxes.

 

[Lyndon]

Saying that you need to study the region because you're making a lot of mistakes is not a "personal attack", and I actually tried to help you by providing you with a link to help you get into some studies.

Actually I don't see anywhere where you have pointed out any "mistakes" I've made in my posts, if there was no war in which Jews took over half of Palestine in 1948, by all means inform me about it, if Muslim countries didn't attack Israel to try and get back their land in 1967, by all means tell me about it, If there are no Israelis that claim there were no Palestinians living in Israel prior to the Jews coming, by all means tell me about it, If Muslims prior to Israel don't have a long history of living peacfully with Christians and Jews, by all means let me know, etc etc etc

 

[BSM1]

Since I don't live in America, nor do I own any property in America, none. Nice try.




So when did the Israeli government "give" land to the Palestinians who were already living on it and had done so for generations?




No, I mean the families who had been living there for generations who were made homeless when the Israeli government seized their property without due recourse.




The Israeli government is the tyrant - they're occupying land that is not legally theirs and are restricting Palestinians' access to basic amenities like water. And there's the small issue of the Gaza Strip where Israel is collectively punishing civilians and preventing them from rebuilding their infrastructure.




Who did they steal it from?

Although were having such a grand time, I only want to ask you one question: How long have you hated Jews?