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Jerusalem, the world's capital

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
The Hebron massacre, the holocaust has more truth on it than the Hebron massacre, even the local people of Hebron didn't know what was going on, they protected
many Jews families in their own houses and i know some families that they did and having good relations with the Jews till our recent days.

The local people were surprised of whom attacked the Jews and they thought they came from the neighboring villages which surrounding
Hebron, people at that days were very simple and don't know about the invention of hoaxes.

Ah of course we made up the massacre. That's just how evil we are.

"When in doubt: Its the Jews fault."
 

Servant_of_the_One1

Well-Known Member
Let UN run it. The zionists made Jerusalem into Prison.


Guys stop the antisemitism card. It becomes very boring to accuse anyone who hates the fascist zionist state of being "antisemite".
 
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rosends

Well-Known Member
The Hebron massacre, the holocaust has more truth on it than the Hebron massacre, even the local people of Hebron didn't know what was going on, they protected
many Jews families in their own houses and i know some families that they did and having good relations with the Jews till our recent days.

The local people were surprised of whom attacked the Jews and they thought they came from the neighboring villages which surrounding
Hebron, people at that days were very simple and don't know about the invention of hoaxes.
This is, possibly, one of the most insane and ignorant things I have ever seen. In one fell swoop, you state that both the Hebron massacre and the holocaust are hoaxes. How you can expect anyone to carry on any sort of dialogue with you if you begin with this position is beyond me.
 

Juhurka

Member
Jerusalem is the capital of the Jewish people and its doors are open to all but it will not be a world capital. Why after the Jews have liberated Jerusalem everyone started talking about making the city a world capital before? Where were you when Christians, Turks and arabs ruled the city? how come no one brought up this idea? Make your Mecca, Moscow or Washington as the world capital but leave Jerusalem alone.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Actually I don't see anywhere where you have pointed out any "mistakes" I've made in my posts, if there was no war in which Jews took over half of Palestine in 1948, by all means inform me about it, if Muslim countries didn't attack Israel to try and get back their land in 1967, by all means tell me about it, If there are no Israelis that claim there were no Palestinians living in Israel prior to the Jews coming, by all means tell me about it, If Muslims prior to Israel don't have a long history of living peacfully with Christians and Jews, by all means let me know, etc etc etc
The answers to most of the above can be found at the link I provided you. Here's a link to Jews under Muslim rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule

As far as the partitioning of Palestine, which was never an actual country btw, can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

The early history of Jews in the region can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
And yes Metis is basically the Methuselah of the Hill Top Youth. It is known.

But it does beat the alternative.

BTW, how do you like my new avatar? Remember what you called me several months ago or am I not the only one here who suffers from c.r.s. disease?
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Although were having such a grand time, I only want to ask you one question: How long have you hated Jews?

And there we go; equating dislike of Israel and how it treats people with Jew-hatred. How very original. And disappointing. I don't hate Jews. Indeed, I don't know any so how can I hate them? Israel and its government is not the sum of the world's Jews - you might as well ask why I hate Americans because I believe their government is a bunch of obnoxious, meddling buttinskis who cause chaos for their own gain (quick hint: I don't hate Americans).

I do, however, raise an eyebrow at the notion that you believe you and your fellows are entitled to a single strip of land along the eastern Mediterranean because your religions says so, that people who aren't Jews must accept this belief unquestioningly and must adapt their world-view accordingly. E.g. Palestinians must submit because Israel conquered them, because they live on land 'bequeathed' to people who lived thousands of years ago by a tribal deity - as if might makes right or some other barbarous notion.

I'm not singling you out because you're a Jew, or because Israel is mostly populated by Jews - I'm singling you out because your claims are bull**** and - because I don't buy into your religious narrative - I'm in no way obligated to take them seriously.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
This is, possibly, one of the most insane and ignorant things I have ever seen. In one fell swoop, you state that both the Hebron massacre and the holocaust are hoaxes. How you can expect anyone to carry on any sort of dialogue with you if you begin with this position is beyond me.

No, i didn't deny the holocaust and assuming it did happen exactly as it's, do you hate the Germans for it ?
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
But it does beat the alternative.

BTW, how do you like my new avatar? Remember what you called me several months ago or am I not the only one here who suffers from c.r.s. disease?

I have no idea what you are talking about. :oops: Sorry
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I do, however, raise an eyebrow at the notion that you believe you and your fellows are entitled to a single strip of land along the eastern Mediterranean because your religions says so, that people who aren't Jews must accept this belief unquestioningly and must adapt their world-view accordingly. E.g. Palestinians must submit because Israel conquered them, because they live on land 'bequeathed' to people who lived thousands of years ago by a tribal deity - as if might makes right or some other barbarous notion.
How much land is the state of Israel as compared to the neighboring "Arab land"? Are you aware of the fact that Israel would be much smaller yet if the Arab states had not attacked it? Are you aware of the fact that Jews have lived in that region going back thousands of years ago? Are you aware of the fact that a very significant percentage of people who live in the region did not live in their current location thousands or even hundreds of years ago? Are you aware that this is also true of many other regions in this world?

Size and population-wise, Israel is a drop in the Middle Eastern bucket.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I have no idea what you are talking about. :oops: Sorry
You called me a "hippie" on one post of yours probably back in June or so, which did resonate with me because I very much had that drift several decades ago, although not in terms of drugs or "free love" (I was too shy for the latter). Since the "shoe fit", I decided to go with this avatar.

See whatcha did!!!!!!!! :)
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
What makes you think that all of humanity should care about your little blood-soaked dustball of a city? Jerusalem doesn't mean anything to me. Jews, Christians and Muslims can fight over it for eternity for all I care. Just leave the rest of us out of it.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
No, i didn't deny the holocaust and assuming it did happen exactly as it's, do you hate the Germans for it ?
You said, when discussing the Hebron massacre which you call a hoax, "the holocaust has more truth on it than the Hebron massacre". That wording indicates that the holocaust, which also is a hoax, still has more truth "on" it than the Hebron massacre. If you didn't intend to bring up the question of the truthfulness of the holocaust, then why did you?

And, why would you ask if I hate Germans? What does that have to do with anything?
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
You called me a "hippie" on one post of yours probably back in June or so, which did resonate with me because I very much had that drift several decades ago, although not in terms of drugs or "free love" (I was too shy for the latter). Since the "shoe fit", I decided to go with this avatar.

See whatcha did!!!!!!!! :)

Ah yes I remember that. I just needed a little hint. ;)
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
You said, when discussing the Hebron massacre which you call a hoax, "the holocaust has more truth on it than the Hebron massacre". That wording indicates that the holocaust, which also is a hoax, still has more truth "on" it than the Hebron massacre. If you didn't intend to bring up the question of the truthfulness of the holocaust, then why did you?

And, why would you ask if I hate Germans? What does that have to do with anything?

Because some deny the holocaust but for me i wasn't there, i only heard about it.
 

Sees

Dragonslayer
It is pretty disturbing that they can't have just one tiny piece of land to themselves. Imagine people demanding the UN do with the Kaaba, or Mecca itself, the same as they demand with the most precious Jewish sites and cities.

The battle for Jerusalem and Israel as a whole is simply because past Muslims went on a conquering spree and marked the territory. Nothing else. It's absurd to think we owe something towards honoring that.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
It is pretty disturbing that they can't have just one tiny piece of land to themselves. Imagine people demanding the UN do with the Kaaba, or Mecca itself, the same as they demand with the most precious Jewish sites and cities.

The battle for Jerusalem and Israel as a whole is simply because past Muslims went on a conquering spree and marked the territory. Nothing else. It's absurd to think we owe something towards honoring that.
Jerusalem isn't even that important to Islam as a religion, so I don't even see why they care about it so much. I see a lot of whining from Muslims about how the Jews hate them and mistreat them so much. But if the Jews really hated them that badly, they'd destroy their Al-Aqsa mosque. After all, they plopped it down right on top of the holiest site in the world to Jews. Would Muslims like it if any other religion built a church or temple on top of the Kaaba? I don't think so!
 
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