MW0082
Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
I don't know I am not familiar with that religion or believe. I can tell you that ALL symbols and dates and everything can be traced back to the pagans beliefs in astrology....
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Jesus died on a Stake or a Cross?
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tomato1236
Ninja Master
Oh. Ok. Yeah. There are certainly pagan influences in early Christianity which have continued to present-day. I think this is widely accepted as fact.
MW0082
Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
Very much so, and this is a defining factor in what makes me cautious of any religion. It seems plagiarized to me is all.....
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
I find it interesting that you find the symbolism of an icon that did not become common for Christianity until the second century to be so important.
Wrong about what? I have never said, "Jesus was crucified on a 'stake'", I am just pointing out that there is no historical evidence one way or the other.
Romans used single poles, crossed poles in the shape of an X, the familiar Cross of Christianity, and a 'T' for crucifixions. These are historical facts.
tomato1236
Ninja Master
Ok. Fair enough.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
That is why I provided the link to the official LDS site.
MW0082
Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
Yeah, so the main reason I am hear is to find out new stuff, and compare it to what I know. To try and find something to believe in maybe.....
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
The LDS are not exactly orthodox in their approach to theology, let's just leave it at that.
Who here would like to assert that Jesus was crucified on a spiral-shaped piece of wood?
Anyone?
Who here would like to assert that Jesus was crucified on a spiral-shaped piece of wood?
Anyone?
sniper762
Well-Known Member
tomato1236
Ninja Master
That is why I provided the link to the official LDS site.
Haha. I've been going to LDS church meetings for 27 years and was never once taught there that it was a stake.
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
MW0082
Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
Easy it is easier to see that Jesus (if he ever did exist) was more than likely crucified on a stake, seeing as that is the times. the cross being changed later to convert more people, using familiar dates and symbols and such. just goes to show the length of deception Christianity will go to to rule the world.....Tomato, why do you suppose people are going on about a stake instead of a cross?
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Easy it is easier to see that Jesus (if he ever did exist) was more than likely crucified on a stake, seeing as that is the times. the cross being changed later to convert more people, using familiar dates and symbols and such. just goes to show the length of deception Christianity will go to to rule the world.....
Yeah, that's what I thought.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Because it is entirely possible it was a stake, or a cross, or even a T.Tomato, why do you suppose people are going on about a stake instead of a cross?
All were common in Roman Crucifixion.
My question is, why is it important to you that it was a Cross?
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Because the world understands it to be a cross. History understands it to be a cross. Christianity understsands it to be a cross.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
So the traditional symbolism of the Cross means more to you than the message?
(BTW, there is little to no historical evidence that the crucifixion of Jesus even occurred, much less evidence that it occurred on the symbolic Christian cross)