Jesus in Heaven is not God

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Saved by faith in God from eternal death. God didn’t rape Jesus’ mother, he was conceived the natural way by a married couple.

I believe you have not been saved from falsehood. Neither of your statements about Mary are true. There is no preexistent Jesus only preexistent God. A believe in a preexistent Jesus is idolatry ie more than one God.

 

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Then where was he?
John 17:5

I believe God is everywhere but of course coming down from Heaven might just mean coming down from heaven ie coming from the spiritual realm rather than the physical.

 

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Clever rationalization!

And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.........when I was just a glorified plan in your head!

When Jesus returned to heaven did he return to being a glorified plan or is he still a personality relaity?

I believe I can understand why you would misinterpret that. I believe the oneness Jesus states He has with the Father explains that. I believe context is important and the rest of the Bible has Him as God in the flesh not a different God.

 

[Colt]

I believe you have not been saved from falsehood. Neither of your statements about Mary are true. There is no preexistent Jesus only preexistent God. A believe in a preexistent Jesus is idolatry ie more than one God.

I believe what Jesus said and did.

 

[Colt]

I believe I can understand why you would misinterpret that. I believe the oneness Jesus states He has with the Father explains that. I believe context is important and the rest of the Bible has Him as God in the flesh not a different God.

God the Father delegates creative powers and administrative authority to his Sons. They are all God. Christ Michael, aka Jesus of Nazareth, existed in heaven from eternity and is the creator of this and many other worlds.

The Father of Christ Michael is like our grandfather. He is a chip off the ole block.

 

[Soapy]

God the Father delegates creative powers and administrative authority to his Sons. They are all God. Christ Michael, aka Jesus of Nazareth, existed in heaven from eternity and is the creator of this and many other worlds.

The Father of Christ Michael is like our grandfather. He is a chip off the ole block.

“God the Father” is wrong.

It is “God, the Father” (the comma is important. It denotes a shortcut, in this case:

• ‘who is called‘ and therefore, “God, who is called, The Father”

I have stated this to you before.

It is like:

• ‘Jesus, the Christ’… ‘Jesus who is called, the Christ’
• ‘John, the Baptiser’… ‘John, who is called, the Baptiser / Baptist’

The proper usage defines one person as the title and therefore, in the case of ‘God’, there can only be one: The Father, since there cannot be a:

• ‘God, the Son’ nor ‘God, the Spirit of God’!!

Unfortunately, sloppy, slack English allows the dropping of the comma and thus introduces opportunity for confusion and misinterpretation.

 

[Colt]

“God the Father” is wrong.

It is “God, the Father” (the comma is important. It denotes a shortcut, in this case:

• ‘who is called‘ and therefore, “God, who is called, The Father”

I have stated this to you before.

It is like:

• ‘Jesus, the Christ’… ‘Jesus who is called, the Christ’
• ‘John, the Baptiser’… ‘John, who is called, the Baptiser / Baptist’

The proper usage defines one person as the title and therefore, in the case of ‘God’, there can only be one: The Father, since there cannot be a:

• ‘God, the Son’ nor ‘God, the Spirit of God’!!

Unfortunately, sloppy, slack English allows the dropping of the comma and thus introduces opportunity for confusion and misinterpretation.

Semantics and affectation! God, the Father is still creators of Sons of God who are divine offspring. They are all One in divinity, indistinguishable in spirit to finite beings.

 

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Semantics and affectation! God, the Father is still creators of Sons of God who are divine offspring. They are all One in divinity, indistinguishable in spirit to finite beings.

‘God, the Father’ is correct… yes.
‘God the Father’ is wrong…

 

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I believe what Jesus said and did.

I do not believe that. I believe you interpret according to your own desires while I interpret with the help of the Holy Spirit.

 

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God the Father delegates creative powers and administrative authority to his Sons. They are all God. Christ Michael, aka Jesus of Nazareth, existed in heaven from eternity and is the creator of this and many other worlds.

The Father of Christ Michael is like our grandfather. He is a chip off the ole block.

I believe repeating a falsehood can't make it true.

 

[Colt]

I do not believe that. I believe you interpret according to your own desires while I interpret with the help of the Holy Spirit.

Jesus is the "spirit of truth" which he poured out upon all flesh according to the scriptures.

 

[Colt]

I believe repeating a falsehood can't make it true.

Denying the truth about Jesus doesn't make it false.