muhammad_isa
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G-d is not a person .. never was .. never will be.Jesus is not a demigod. He is God in the flesh.
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G-d is not a person .. never was .. never will be.Jesus is not a demigod. He is God in the flesh.
If Jesus is all that, why would He have enemies?I am ok with Jesus being a ral person as God in the flesh. I have no need to diminish Him. It is usually the enemy that seeks that.
The standard laid out in the OP:What standard?
I think regardless of whether there existed a Jew/Rabbi at the source of the Biblical account. Jesus did not write anything. Can't even be sure, if he existed, what he looked like.
What we have is a fictional character, not a real character. There is simply not enough information about Jesus for Jesus to be real character. Even the name Jesus is a fictional creation.
Are you ok with Jesus as fictional or do you feel a need to insist that Jesus existed as a real person?
That's what a demigod is.I believe you are incorrect. Jesus is not a demigod. He is God in the flesh.
I have not formulated any beliefs when it comes to the existence of Jesus, Socrates, Confucius, and Pythagoras. There are contadictions concerning all of them, the waters are muddy and unsettled.To be fair, if we apply the same standard, then so are Socrates, Confucius, and Pythagoras.
People that read their Bible in order to find the real Jesus find him soon enough. Aspersions cast towards non believers comes with the territory, belief is the main thrust of the Jesus story, no matter what form he takes on.Perhaps you should use a real word or
explain what you mean by " myther".
You're as religious as they come, you have found Jesus and you cast aspersions at those that don't believe as you do, typical.So tell them that 'n'all.
Dear oh dear......... I haven't found Jesus, mate.You're as religious as they come, you have found Jesus and you cast aspersions at those that don't believe as you do, typical.
Dear oh dear......... I haven't found Jesus, mate.
I've clawed around in the debris of literature, a few archaeological finds, what history is still there and got a glimpse of a guy long deceased who cared about the people around him. That's all.
““How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! For you have said in your heart: ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’ Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit. “Those who see you will gaze at you, And consider you, saying: ‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble, Who shook kingdoms, Who made the world as a wilderness And destroyed its cities, Who did not open the house of his prisoners?’”If Jesus is all that, why would He have enemies?
Vanity.You're as religious as they come, you have found Jesus and you cast aspersions at those that don't believe as you do, typical.
Yes you have, everyone has to come to some sort of belief, no? Whatever you believe about them is a belief.I have not formulated any beliefs when it comes to the existence of Jesus, Socrates, Confucius, and Pythagoras.
Yes you have, everyone has to come to some sort of belief, no? Whatever you believe about them is a belief.
Unbelief or willful ignorance are still belief systemsYou are confused by semantics.
Belief that your shoe is still on your foot
is not " a belief".
" a belief " is a belief system.
Yes you have, everyone has to come to some sort of belief, no? Whatever you believe about them is a belief.
How do think that I believe on faith? How did it happen for me? Seems you know, maybe you do but tell me.Not everyone believes on faith like you do, some people need something to go on in order to formulate a belief especially when it comes to the existence of characters from the far past. Thery all may very well have existed but I don't have enough information to go on. Some people like yourself are more easily convinced.
God is a faith belief, do you believe in God?How do think that I believe on faith? How did it happen for me? Seems you know, maybe you do but tell me.
A lot of people believe in God even Satan and demons. What’s your definition of faith/belief, how do you believe I got that?God is a faith belief, do you believe in God?
Only you know how you have come to believe things on faith.A lot of people believe in God even Satan and demons. What’s your definition of faith/belief, how do you believe I got that?
You were talking like you knew about spiritual things but apparently not, so how can you speak of things like faith, doesn’t seem like you know what it is or how faith comes to a person.Only you know how you have come to believe things on faith.