Jesus is a Fictional Character

[Nakosis]

Do you believe Socrates existed? He never wrote anything down either and was essentially a lazy slob!
I have never read of any physical evidence of his existence...only in the writings of 3 authors the main one being Plato. In fact as alluded to in an early response to you thread, there is evidence he is a figure of Plato's imagination!

To my point, it doesn't really matter whether Socrates was historical or fictional. The writings don't require an historical protagonist for their meaning/value.
Like in Aesop's fables, the tortoise need not have actually won the race with the hare to understand the moral principle.

 

[Audie]

God is the topic, He is the author of all the Scriptures, all of it is His Story. Paul proceeded to heal people on Malta after he got bit by the viper. You assume it wasn’t poisonous @ about 2K years ago. You assume you know for sure on these things, when you don’t.

Funny how YOU are so sure after not a minutes thought.
If hevgot bit on Malta it wasnt a poisonous snake coz there arent any.
One clever believer suggested a sea snake!

And vipers dont " cling". Bite too quick to
see anything but a flicker.

And who picks up snakes without even noticing
irs a snake.

YOU dont know. Are you claiming you do?
Im giving you some probabilities,
but they may be uncomfy.

 

[muhammad_isa]

You wish.

You must be joking.
If it's hard for you, then it's hard for us all.

 

[Audie]

You must be joking.
If it's hard for you, then it's hard for us all.

???

 

[muhammad_isa]

Allah plans to hang me by my hair in eternal
fire coz ( as you see) I dont covers my hair!

You didnt warn me about that.

That's nonsense.

No one will be wronged on that day.
Trying to wriggle out of belief by painting unfair scenarios will not save us.
G-d looks for our sincerity, and not outward appearances.

 

[Audie]

That's nonsense.

No one will be wronged on that day.
Trying to wriggle out of belief by painting unfair scenarios will not save us.
G-d looks for our sincerity, and not outward appearances.

Your opinion

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But its all just opinions, so, my hair is as
I like it.

" Wriggle out" is a particularly
weird opinion, or more properly,
something you simply made up.

We get used to that, its common as dirt.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Funny how YOU are so sure after not a minutes thought.
If hevgot bit on Malta it wasnt a poisonous snake coz there arent any.
One clever believer suggested a sea snake!

And vipers dont " cling". Bite too quick to
see anything but a flicker.

And who picks up snakes without

Funny how YOU are so sure after not a minutes thought.
If hevgot bit on Malta it wasnt a poisonous snake coz there arent any.
One clever believer suggested a sea snake!

And vipers dont " cling". Bite too quick to
see anything but a flicker.

And who picks up snakes without even noticing
irs a snake.

YOU dont know. Are you claiming you do?
Im giving you some probabilities,
but they may be uncomfy.

I’m claiming that the testimonies in Acts are true, that God’s Word is trustworthy. I haven’t any reason to believe otherwise. But you on the other hand are what 40 years old or whatever your age and you know, well you don’t.

 

[lukethethird]

Yeah Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the World. The Son of God who is at the right hand of God the Father, the only one Worthy to take the Scroll and break the Seals, The King of Kings and Lord of Lords, Yeah that Jesus

Yeah, that Jesus is cool, it's that other one that's getting tired, the historical Jesus from Nazareth.

 

[muhammad_isa]

But its all just opinions, so, my hair is as
I like it.

What's it got to do with your hair?
Who cares? I certainly don't.

 

[Audie]

What's it got to do with your hair?
Who cares? I certainly don't.

Check islamic art in the link.

 

[lukethethird]

I’m claiming that the testimonies in Acts are true, that God’s Word is trustworthy. I haven’t any reason to believe otherwise. But you on the other hand are what 40 years old or whatever your age and you know, well you don’t.

There might not be a need to start getting any ideas about reason at this stage.

 

[ElishaElijah]

You close your eyes to reason.

Hadn’t thought about the vipers on Malta till you brought it up, now that I thought about it, considering everything I know of Luke, Paul and especially God. I would say you’re mistaken and wrong in your thinking, especially if you believe Paul needed to make up a story to legitimize the gospel or his calling as an apostle.

 

[oldbadger]

Religionarians broadcast it every day

So tell them that 'n'all.

 

[lukethethird]

Hadn’t thought about the vipers on Malta till you brought it up, now that I thought about it, considering everything I know of Luke, Paul and especially God. I would say you’re mistaken and wrong in your thinking, especially if you believe Paul needed to make up a story to legitimize the gospel or his calling as an apostle.

Paul didn't make that story up, it was the author of Luke/Acts that made it up.

 

[lukethethird]

I think regardless of whether there existed a Jew/Rabbi at the source of the Biblical account. Jesus did not write anything. Can't even be sure, if he existed, what he looked like.

What we have is a fictional character, not a real character. There is simply not enough information about Jesus for Jesus to be real character. Even the name Jesus is a fictional creation.

Are you ok with Jesus as fictional or do you feel a need to insist that Jesus existed as a real person?

If I was planning on having a personal relationship with Jesus, would it really make any difference?

Asking for a friend.

 

[Nakosis]

If I was planning on having a personal relationship with Jesus, would it really make any difference?

Asking for a friend.

Millions have a personal relationship with Jesus so it doesn't seem to matter.

 

[Muffled]

I think regardless of whether there existed a Jew/Rabbi at the source of the Biblical account. Jesus did not write anything. Can't even be sure, if he existed, what he looked like.

What we have is a fictional character, not a real character. There is simply not enough information about Jesus for Jesus to be real character. Even the name Jesus is a fictional creation.

Are you ok with Jesus as fictional or do you feel a need to insist that Jesus existed as a real person?

I am ok with Jesus being a ral person as God in the flesh. I have no need to diminish Him. It is usually the enemy that seeks that.

 

[Muffled]

To be fair, if we apply the same standard, then so are Socrates, Confucius, and Pythagoras.

What standard? That we don't have photographs. I should think one would know that photography is a fairly recent discovery.

 

[Muffled]

Actually no. There are much more archeological evidences available that these people existed more than Jesus.

The standard is based on available historical evidences and if Jesus had those same type of evidences, there wouldn't be as much speculation.

Jesus is a demigod anyways, and belongs in the pantheon of all other mythological gods and demigods.

I believe you are incorrect. Jesus is not a demigod. He is God in the flesh.

 

[Nakosis]

I am ok with Jesus being a ral person as God in the flesh. I have no need to diminish Him. It is usually the enemy that seeks that.

The problem is IMO, we know nothing about the real physical person. So we are left to fill in what we don't know which will vary from individual to individual.

Whatever image anyone person has in mind of Jesus can only be fictional.