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Jesus is God?

Poisonshady313

Poisonshady313

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His Arm represents the kindness He had shown to Israel... that He had heard our cries and reached in with an outstretched arm to pull us out of the house of bondage... and with strong hand (power), He delivered the plagues to Egypt.
 
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Jesus in me
nawab said:
exactly Jesus was not condeming all the tribe of israel, remeember he was also from the tribe of israel, I am more suprised by the divinity of Jesus rather than Jesus being a prophet. If Jesus was a prophet it can be, but the divinity of Jesus is already going against the idea of the Abrahamic Faith the unity of the Almighty God. The Lord of the Universe. I feel that why Jews dont accept Jesus has mainly to do with Christians, because they claim that Jesus is divine and co-equal with God which is a great blasphemy of the higest order
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It is only blasphemy if it isn't true. The facts show that God supported Christianity and dispersed Judaism. And although God has prospered Islam to overcome countires that were rife with idolatry, He has not prospered Islamic countries attacking Christian countries.

This is not the case. God is one wherever He is and He is everwhere. The fact that He is in Jesus does not eliminiate that oneness and Jesus proclaimed it:
John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye would have known my Father also: from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and dost thou not know me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; how sayest thou, Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I say unto you I speak not from myself: but the Father abiding in me doeth his works.
 
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Poisonshady313 said:
That's all true... but we also have reason to believe he was a false prophet.

For 1, the sign of Jonah.
2. When he looked at the temple and its surrounding buildings and said "these will all be destroyed so that one brick shall not be left standing on top of another"
3. [FONT=&quot]“For the Son of Man [i.e. Jesus] is about to come in the glory of his Father with his angels, and then he will reward each one according to his deeds. I assure you [i.e. swear to you] that there are some here who will not die until they have seen the Son of Man [Jesus] come as King.”[/FONT]


There are others... but this is a start.
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It is an interesting proposition for which I trust you have a thread. I would agree with you that Jesus could not be a false prophet and be God but I don't agree with you that Jesus is a false prophet.
 
Popeyesays

Popeyesays

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To incarnate means that God would no longer be God at all, but just another being contingent upon the will of God to exist at all.

So, how can He be part of Creation and remain the Creator?

An artist might paint himswelf into a mural, but that image isw not the artist.

Regards,
Scott
 
Jeremy Mason

Jeremy Mason

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Popeyesays said:
To incarnate means that God would no longer be God at all, but just another being contingent upon the will of God to exist at all.

So, how can He be part of Creation and remain the Creator?

An artist might paint himswelf into a mural, but that image isw not the artist.

Regards,
Scott
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Scott, who was Jesus' Dad? :rolleyes:
 
Poisonshady313

Poisonshady313

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Popeyesays said:
You're free to do so, but doesn't your knee get tired with all those quick reaction jerks you suffer?

Regards,
Scott
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Might I be so humble as to ask to what you are referring?

(as far as knee jerk reactions, wasn't it YOU who took my disagreement with your statement to mean something entirely different than I intended?)
 
Popeyesays

Popeyesays

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Poisonshady313 said:
Might I be so humble as to ask to what you are referring?

(as far as knee jerk reactions, wasn't it YOU who took my disagreement with your statement to mean something entirely different than I intended?)
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No.
from the idiom site on the web:
"Knee jerk reaction
This is something with an automatic response. Its origin comes from the reaction one's knee gets when sharpely hit.


This sent in from a visitor:

The knee jerk is, in anatomy/physiology, one of the "reflex" reactions. The nerve signal travels from the point struck just below the kneecap to the spine and triggers the muscle response. The brain is not involved. Thus the main thrust of the idiom as used to denote an "unthinking" reaction. . . ."

Regards,
Scott


 
Poisonshady313

Poisonshady313

Well-Known Member
Popeyesays said:
No.
from the idiom site on the web:
"Knee jerk reaction
This is something with an automatic response. Its origin comes from the reaction one's knee gets when sharpely hit.


This sent in from a visitor:

The knee jerk is, in anatomy/physiology, one of the "reflex" reactions. The nerve signal travels from the point struck just below the kneecap to the spine and triggers the muscle response. The brain is not involved. Thus the main thrust of the idiom as used to denote an "unthinking" reaction. . . ."

Regards,
Scott
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My reaction to the notion that Jesus was brought into being the same way as Adam was in no way "unthinking". if you want to fault me for failing to elaborate, fine. Though it's not my obligation to do so with every post.

I just took the opportunity, while you were expressing your disbelief that it took a sperm and egg to create Jesus, to reaffirm for the sake of other readers my position that I reject Jesus' birth as having been miraculous in any way.
 
Popeyesays

Popeyesays

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Poisonshady313 said:
My reaction to the notion that Jesus was brought into being the same way as Adam was in no way "unthinking". if you want to fault me for failing to elaborate, fine. Though it's not my obligation to do so with every post.

I just took the opportunity, while you were expressing your disbelief that it took a sperm and egg to create Jesus, to reaffirm for the sake of other readers my position that I reject Jesus' birth as having been miraculous in any way.
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I don't consider the creation of Adam to be 'miraculous' either. God willed it, it was--nothing miraculous involved.

Regards,
Scott
 
Poisonshady313

Poisonshady313

Well-Known Member
Popeyesays said:
I don't consider the creation of Adam to be 'miraculous' either. God willed it, it was--nothing miraculous involved.

Regards,
Scott
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Then I'm unfamiliar with your application of the word miracle.

As I understand it,

mir·a·cle
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–noun
1.an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause.
2.such an effect or event manifesting or considered as a work of God.
 
Popeyesays

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
Poisonshady313 said:
Then I'm unfamiliar with your application of the word miracle.

As I understand it,

mir·a·cle
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[mir-uh-kuh
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–noun
1.an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause.
2.such an effect or event manifesting or considered as a work of God.
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Pretty amazing but just as natural as dandruff, really . . . . when you get down to it.

Regards,
Scott
 
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