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Jesus is God.

Muffled

Jesus in me
yes but if we take scripture as a whole he is talking about this system we live in, not the actual earth. There is nothing wrong with the earth. what is wrong is what man chooses to do to the earth.

I don't see how you can substitute "this system" for "earth." I believe in doing so you are changing the word of God to fit your own beliefs.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
ok. Jesus clearly is a distinct person from the father, but you have the right to believe what you want.

I believe the evidence is to the contrary and you can believe what you want but in essence you are being idolatrous. Jesus does not like it and I would think you would wish to please Him.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Where is he quoting from? he is quoting from the 37th psalm.

I believe I see no evidence that He is quoting from scripture.

You are quoting these verses I suppose:
Ps. 37:27 Depart from evil, and do good; And dwell for evermore.
28 For Jehovah loveth justice, And forsaketh not his saints; They are preserved for ever: But the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
29 The righteous shall inherit the land, And dwell therein for ever.

I believe the land does not have to be earth. I have lived on other planets in previous lives but I still dwelt in a land.
 

anonymous9887

bible reader
I believe I see no evidence that He is quoting from scripture.

You are quoting these verses I suppose:
Ps. 37:27 Depart from evil, and do good; And dwell for evermore.
28 For Jehovah loveth justice, And forsaketh not his saints; They are preserved for ever: But the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
29 The righteous shall inherit the land, And dwell therein for ever.

I believe the land does not have to be earth. I have lived on other planets in previous lives but I still dwelt in a land.
psalms 37:11
 

Ben Avraham

Well-Known Member
Yes, but how do you know the manuscripts that Ezra copied from are authentic. What is your criteria to Judge that the Torah originally came from Moses. You need to provide your criteria and we can use the same standard to judge the NT if you are consistent.

Jesus was a Jew, lived as a Jew and died as one. What I ask of you is to keep Jesus away from your NT which was the gospel of Paul and I'll take care of the Tanach which was the gospel of Jesus. How about that for a deal?
 

anonymous9887

bible reader
Jesus was a Jew, lived as a Jew and died as one. What I ask of you is to keep Jesus away from your NT which was the gospel of Paul and I'll take care of the Tanach which was the gospel of Jesus. How about that for a deal?
No. How about you prove how you draw the conclusion that the Tanakh was originally written by the original writers? Unless you really have no defense?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
ok. Jesus clearly is a distinct person from the father, but you have the right to believe what you want.


the hebrew and greek doesn't teach anything apart from God. God is ONE and there is nothing besides, or no other God. jesus, like everything begotten/created, is an aspect of that ABSOLUTE. each of us is a little "i am" in the great "I AM".

exodus 3:14-15 and John 14:10-11

God is omnipresent. God cannot be sent, unlike Jesus who was.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I believe I see no evidence that He is quoting from scripture.

You are quoting these verses I suppose:
Ps. 37:27 Depart from evil, and do good; And dwell for evermore.
28 For Jehovah loveth justice, And forsaketh not his saints; They are preserved for ever: But the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
29 The righteous shall inherit the land, And dwell therein for ever.

I believe the land does not have to be earth. I have lived on other planets in previous lives but I still dwelt in a land.



If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake. A man's body is his castle, camelot. A man's body, his earthly form, is his temple.

Rev 21:1-4 and 1 Corinthians 6:19

"I AM" the light set on a hill. self-actualization
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Jesus was a Jew, lived as a Jew and died as one. What I ask of you is to keep Jesus away from your NT which was the gospel of Paul and I'll take care of the Tanach which was the gospel of Jesus. How about that for a deal?

I believe Jesus never said the Tanach was His gospel. He preached the Gospel of The Kingdom of God.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
the hebrew and greek doesn't teach anything apart from God. God is ONE and there is nothing besides, or no other God. jesus, like everything begotten/created, is an aspect of that ABSOLUTE. each of us is a little "i am" in the great "I AM".

exodus 3:14-15 and John 14:10-11

God is omnipresent. God cannot be sent, unlike Jesus who was.

I believe Jesus is more than just a body but He also has the living Spirit of God in Him.

I believe the Spirit of God in Jesus is omnipresent.

I believe God's Spirit is everywhere but normally it is not in a body so it has to be sent into the body.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
I believe most people refer to the Paraclete as The Holy Spirit. Mary did not receive Him until the Pentecost after the ascension of Jesus. It is the Holy Spirit that would be God in Mary.

You don't think that Jesus was conceived via that Spirit?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I believe Jesus is more than just a body but He also has the living Spirit of God in Him.

I believe the Spirit of God in Jesus is omnipresent.

I believe God's Spirit is everywhere but normally it is not in a body so it has to be sent into the body.

The Holy Spirit is omnipresent in all things.

Colossians 3:11
Christ is all and in ALL

The Holy Spirit is LOVE

1 Corinthians 2:16
for, “Who has known the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.
 

Ben Avraham

Well-Known Member
I believe Jesus never said the Tanach was His gospel. He preached the Gospel of The Kingdom of God.

That's the Kingdom of God aka the Tanach. Every time Jesus referred to the Word of God, he had the Tanach in mind. I hope you know that the NT he never even dreamed would ever rise.
 
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