anonymous9887
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Jesus is the beginning
In the beginning was(existed) the word and the word was (existed) with god and a god was the word.
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Jesus is God.
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In the beginning was(existed) the word and the word was (existed) with god and a god was the word.
anonymous9887
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You can't avoid the fact that an angel is referred to as Jehovah in the account with Abraham.Since the Tetragrammaton (YHWH) is translated into English as Jehovah, ( Hebrew as Yahweh or Yeho.wah ), then Jehovah is Not an angelic creation, but He is the Creator - Revelation 4:11
You can't avoid the fact that an angel is referred to as Jehovah in the account with Abraham.
Please post which passage or verse you have in mind. Thanks
anonymous9887
bible reader
Genesis 18:1,2,3, 4Since the Tetragrammaton (YHWH) is translated into English as Jehovah, ( Hebrew as Yahweh or Yeho.wah ), then Jehovah is Not an angelic creation, but He is the Creator - Revelation 4:11
Genesis 18:22
Genesis 19:1
anonymous9887
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Also Zechariah 3:2Please post which passage or verse you have in mind. Thanks
Jesus is the beginning
In the beginning was(existed) the word and the word was (existed) with god and a god was the word.
Yes, agree, since Jesus is divine then he is a god, but Not the Creator God - Revelation 4:11; John 4:23-24
God/god is a title such as the judges of Psalms 82 were titled as gods.
That includes LORD/Lord as also being titles at Psalms 110
Wasn't Moses made ' god ' to Pharaoh according to Exodus 7:1
anonymous9887
bible reader
What's your point? I believe YHWH is the only true god and Jesus is his son. A better example is Psalms 8:5Yes, agree, since Jesus is divine then he is a god, but Not the Creator God - Revelation 4:11; John 4:23-24
God/god is a title such as the judges of Psalms 82 were titled as gods.
That includes LORD/Lord as also being titles at Psalms 110
Wasn't Moses made ' god ' to Pharaoh according to Exodus 7:1
anonymous9887
bible reader
Depending on how you translate Psalms 8:5 which to me is talking about angels and using a form of elohim to describe them.
Also Zechariah 3:2
I don't see the Tetragrammaton (YHWH ) used in any of those verses.
Certainly it was an 'angel of the LORD' (YHWH) who spoke - Zechariah 1:12 - in those 8 visions -
Zechariah chapters 1 to 6. So, the angel spoke for the LORD (YHWH)
anonymous9887
bible reader
Btw the word god is a matter of categorization.Yes, agree, since Jesus is divine then he is a god, but Not the Creator God - Revelation 4:11; John 4:23-24
God/god is a title such as the judges of Psalms 82 were titled as gods.
That includes LORD/Lord as also being titles at Psalms 110
Wasn't Moses made ' god ' to Pharaoh according to Exodus 7:1
anonymous9887
bible reader
Zechariah saysI don't see the Tetragrammaton (YHWH ) used in any of those verses.
Certainly it was an 'angel of the LORD' (YHWH) who spoke - Zechariah 1:12 - in those 8 visions -
Zechariah chapters 1 to 6. So, the angel spoke for the LORD (YHWH)
And YHWH said to Satan may YHWH who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you.
What's your point? I believe YHWH is the only true god and Jesus is his son. A better example is Psalms 8:5
Agree, Psalm 8:5 which Hebrews 2:9 refers is even a better example.
That God and His Son are God and Son, and Not God and God.
anonymous9887
bible reader
Read those passages in Genesis carefully who's feet did Abraham think he was washing?I don't see the Tetragrammaton (YHWH ) used in any of those verses.
Certainly it was an 'angel of the LORD' (YHWH) who spoke - Zechariah 1:12 - in those 8 visions -
Zechariah chapters 1 to 6. So, the angel spoke for the LORD (YHWH)
anonymous9887
bible reader
How many angels were with Abraham?I don't see the Tetragrammaton (YHWH ) used in any of those verses.
Certainly it was an 'angel of the LORD' (YHWH) who spoke - Zechariah 1:12 - in those 8 visions -
Zechariah chapters 1 to 6. So, the angel spoke for the LORD (YHWH)
Who stayed with Abraham?
How many angels of the 3 left to Sodom?
Who was Abraham talking to when he supplicated for Sodom?
Zechariah says
And YHWH said to Satan may YHWH who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you.
Let me see if I can follow with the ^ above ^
Zechariah 3:1-3 ( vision # 4 ) says the angel of the LORD and Satan, so it's the LORD God speaking through the angel to Satan. - Zechariah 3:5-6
The rebuke of Zechariah 3:2 is in connection to Jude 1:9
anonymous9887
bible reader
Read it in the Hebrew.Let me see if I can follow with the ^ above ^
Zechariah 3:1-3 ( vision # 4 ) says the angel of the LORD and Satan, so it's the LORD God speaking through the angel to Satan. - Zechariah 3:5-6
The rebuke of Zechariah 3:2 is in connection to Jude 1:9
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Zechariah 3:2 in hebrew text analysis and read it from the original language. Jws don't believe Jude is a parallel to Zechariah.
anonymous9887
bible reader
Even if you do connect it "who is like god" said to Satan may Jehovah who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you.Let me see if I can follow with the ^ above ^
Zechariah 3:1-3 ( vision # 4 ) says the angel of the LORD and Satan, so it's the LORD God speaking through the angel to Satan. - Zechariah 3:5-6
The rebuke of Zechariah 3:2 is in connection to Jude 1:9
Jesus is a copy and reproduction of God from the beginning.
Read those passages in Genesis carefully who's feet did Abraham think he was washing?
Genesis 18:4 is in connection to the 3 materialized angels of verse 2 . They were titled as Lord, Not LORD (YHWH)
Genesis 19:2 is in connection to the 2 materialized angels of verse 1. Not LORD (YHWH) but as Lord's.
Even today we speak of Land Lords, or Land Ladies, and know they are Not God.
Read it in the Hebrew.
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Zechariah 3:2 in hebrew text analysis and read it from the original language. Jws don't believe Jude is a parallel to Zechariah.
I don't think Jews recognize the Christian Scriptures, so why would they believe in a parallel to Jude 1:9
anonymous9887
bible reader
Jehovah's witnessesI don't think Jews recognize the Christian Scriptures, so why would they believe in a parallel to Jude 1:9