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Jesus is not God

Oeste

Well-Known Member
Damn, you could fool me there. If you do, you sure are NOT showing any signs of having understood.

Hebrews 1:8 was quoting Psalm 45:6-7, and making slight changes to showcase Jesus as God DO NOT make Jesus God.

Any verse/passage that DO NOT CONTRADICT what God Almighty already DECLARED OF HIMSELF, and of what Jesus already said of himself, can be accepted as true.

Are you a scriptwriter?? Hollywood could use your talent!

Don’t kid yourself, buddy.

Am I having a conversation with a kid here???

Show you what?? I think I have shown you everything that needs to be shown but, you keep harping the same old questions over and over again like a broken record. Move on, buddy!

As I said earlier, you don’t know what you are talking about when it comes to the scripture.

As usual, ‘spitting’ nonsense again!

Yeah, I think we're done.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Then please present your non-circular reasoning.
I don't have any reasoning since I did not do the research on how the Bible was compiled.
I rely upon biblical scholars and historians who have done extensive research.
This statement is an unevidenced proclamation that lacks context. Let's give it some.

The apostles I am referring to are the NT apostles, the apostles of Jesus.

Jesus is the Son of God. He is a prophet of God, and as the Son of God, He is God.

A prophet that does not come from God has no authority, and does not need to be recognized by any apostle, any teacher, or any believer of God. That is something 1Corinthians 14:36-38 makes clear. Not all prophets are from God. Some prophets are from God, some simply believe they are, and some prophets come from other sources. The bible refers to these prophets as false prophets, as the only true prophets are from God.

So YES. If the prophet is not from God, they may not voluntarily submit to an apostle who is from God.

And Yes, Paul was not only an apostle, but a prophet as well. ALL apostles are prophets, but not all prophets are apostles, because ALL apostles are called by Jesus, sent by Jesus, and, after his death and resurrection, were guided by the Helper Jesus sent, the Holy Spirit!

The acts of the apostles are recorded in the book of Acts. Paul had several acts recorded there. As for prophets, Ba'al has "prophets", Zeus has "prophets", Jupiter has prophets, but none of them have apostles.

They do, but only if the prophet is also an apostle. There is no instance of a prophet who is not apostle correcting an apostle in the New Testament. But there are instances of apostles correcting other apostles.

Incorrect.

The apostles performed miracles and signs, and they were guided by the Helper, the Holy Spirit. They are apostles and prophets.
You have your beliefs and I have mine.
You are free to believe whatever you want to believe and I am not going to argue about it.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
"Proof texts"

I appreciate all the proof text @Trailblazer, but these "proof-texts" were answered previously, If not by me then by others. Unfortunately we do not get much in the way of a response. A little time goes by, we get asked about them again, we answer them again, we get no response, a little time goes by, we get asked about them again, we answer the again....
On and on it goes!

So here are a few I've posted which I'll post again. Find your favorite proof text, and see the rebuttal below. No need for me to repost them again.

However, If there's a verse missing, let me know. If it hasn't been addressed by anyone previously I'll make a reply.
I am not going to argue about verses and what they mean because they mean different things to different people.
As such they are proof of nothing.

If you want to believe that Jesus is God you are welcome to that belief, but I will never share that belief.
I could use the Bible to show why Jesus is not God, but what would be the point? You are going to believe what you believe.
 
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