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Jesus is not god

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
The female side of God, same God, different gender, I do not want the male side of God having as much influence on me as the female side. I believe God is genderless, or two halves, one male, one female, I pray through the female side, most of the Abrahamic religions pray through the male side, with the possible exception of Jesus.

There is no scripture that says my Father is also a female, so I do not believe like that. I only want God's Truth. I do not want man's truth. God's Truth is everything to me.
If you want the only One God to hear your prayers, you have to be reconciled to Him by Jesus.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Well IF your God is Male, with genetalia, and everything, I really don't want anything to do with him.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
I thought the priests in the jewish religion could forgive people's sins by presenting them before God, or pray for their sins to be forgiven. I pray every night for forgiveness of sins not only for me and my friends but for all the people and animals in the world. Of course I have no illusion that I am the one forgiving them, but I am saying prayers for them, even people I 'hate".
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Do you think that you have a deeper knowledge of God
I leave the answer to you
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
You reject Jesus, the Greatest Love ever known. You reject God, God who is Love.

I don't reject Jesus, I follow him, I just don't believe God in heaven has genitals, is that too much to believe!!
 

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
I don't reject Jesus, I follow him, I just don't believe God in heaven has genitals, is that too much to believe!!
Jesus is God made visible.

God is invisible and lives in unapproachable light.

How is it that you are a follower of Jesus? You state that you are a Muslim and an ex Buddhist.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Jesus is considered by many if not most Muslims to be the greatest leader in the Koran, his Arabic name is Issa(pbuh)
 

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
Jesus is considered by many if not most Muslims to be the greatest leader in the Koran, his Arabic name is Issa(pbuh)
It is not the Jesus of the Holy Bible.
You say pbuh after saying Jesus, or any other "prophets" name is not much unlike OCD.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Sorry you are absolutely wrong, you are right Muslims teach Jesus is a prophet, but they also teach Jesus is probably the highest prophet,and that Mohammed is a lesser prophet, just the most recent time wise. There are not two Jesus', one in the Bible, one in the Koran, only one the same Jesus(Issa in arabic)(Yeshua in Aramaic). Likewise there are not two GODs, one in the Bible, and one in the Koran, there is only GOD same in both religions. Some Christians believe Jesus Is GOD too, Muslims do not, But the GOD in Heaven is the same in both religion.

pbuh means peace be upon Him, as in Jesus, peace be upon him, Abraham, peace be upon him, Moses peace be upon him, etc etc for all the prophets.
 

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
Sorry you are absolutely wrong, you are right Muslims teach Jesus is a prophet, but they also teach Jesus is probably the highest prophet,and that Mohammed is a lesser prophet, just the most recent time wise. There are not two Jesus', one in the Bible, one in the Koran, only one the same Jesus(Issa in arabic)(Yeshua in Aramaic). Likewise there are not two GODs, one in the Bible, and one in the Koran, there is only GOD same in both religions. Some Christians believe Jesus Is GOD too, Muslims do not, But the GOD in Heaven is the same in both religion.

pbuh means peace be upon Him, as in Jesus, peace be upon him, Abraham, peace be upon him, Moses peace be upon him, etc etc for all the prophets.

I know what pbuh means.

How did you ever think that I did not know?

I stand behind what I said.

How do you ever get that it is the same Jesus preached and taught in the Holy Bible as to the Qur'an?
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Because he says and does many of the exact same things in the Koran as he says and does in the Gospels, unless you believe in parallel universes or something. And he has the same mother, Mary, and the same father Joseph etc. etc. If you don't believe me read it for yourself.
 

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
Because he says and does many of the exact same things in the Koran as he says and does in the Gospels, unless you believe in parallel universes or something.
My God came in the flesh as a Son of Man.

My God, came as a Son called Jesus Christ, died on the cross for the sins of the world.

The Muslim religion teaches against that truth.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Its not an absolute truth, its an interpretation, like Catholic vs Protestant. I believe in a God that is liberal enough that HE accepts people however they come to him, there are going to be sinners in heaven, though by the time they reach heaven they will be sinning no more. Most Christian religions teach that Jesus is the SON of God, not God Himself. The whole JESUS=GOD IN HEAVEN thing is really a heresy, IT IS NOT TAUGHT IN THE BIBLE, just by some born again Christians mostly, it probably started in the 20th century. Jesus is God on earth was taught all the way back to the early Christian church, but being God on earth and being GOD of all the Universe in Heaven, are two very different things.

Personally my own opinion is it doesn't matter what you believe Jesus is, as long as you follow His teachings, and ask GOD In Heaven to come into your life and take over for you. Imagine you finally get to meet Jesus in Heaven, and he asks you, Do you believe I am Almighty GOD, and you answer yes Lord, and he says to you, well its not really true, I am part God, I am like God, but GOD Above is much much more powerful than me, but bless you that you thought so well of me. At that point are you going to want to reject Jesus and go back to earth because He is not his Father but the son??? Think about it, pray about, how ever you understand to make Jesus and GOD the Father part of your life, and submit to their direction, is going to be Good, and acceptable to God.
 

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
Its not an absolute truth, its an interpretation, like Catholic vs Protestant. I believe in a God that is liberal enough that HE accepts people however they come to him, there are going to be sinners in heaven, though by the time they reach heaven they will be sinning no more. Most Christian religions teach that Jesus is the SON of God, not God Himself. The whole JESUS=GOD IN HEAVEN thing is really a heresy, IT IS NOT TAUGHT IN THE BIBLE, just by some born again Christians mostly, it probably started in the 20th century. Jesus is God on earth was taught all the way back to the early Christian church, but being God on earth and being GOD of all the Universe in Heaven, are two very different things.

Personally my own opinion is it doesn't matter what you believe Jesus is, as long as you follow His teachings, and ask GOD In Heaven to come into your life and take over for you. Imagine you finally get to meet Jesus in Heaven, and he asks you, Do you believe I am Almighty GOD, and you answer yes Lord, and he says to you, well its not really true, I am part God, I am like God, but GOD Above is much much more powerful than me, but bless you that you thought so well of me. At that point are you going to want to reject Jesus and go back to earth because He is not his Father but the son??? Think about it, pray about, how ever you understand to make Jesus and GOD the Father part of your life, and submit to their direction, is going to be Good, and acceptable to God.
You can know God's Truth now.
You can have salvation now.
There is only one book with the written word's of God, and that book is the Holy Bible.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Jesus forgave sins. Only God can forgive sins.

My God came in the flesh as a Son of Man.

My God, came as a Son called Jesus Christ, died on the cross for the sins of the world.

The Muslim religion teaches against that truth.
Luke 7:48Then He said to her, "Your sins have been forgiven." 49Those who were reclining at the table with Him began to say to themselves, "Who is this man who even forgives sins?" 50And He said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace."

Luke 5:21
The Pharisees and the teachers of the law began thinking to themselves, "Who is this fellow who speaks blasphemy? Who can forgive sins but God alone?"

You are giving examples for your teaching of the teaching of the Pharisees So you saying "only God can forgive sins" is teaching "against the truth". What do you think will happen to all those teaching against the truth?

Mark 8 14 However, they forgot to take bread along, and they had nothing with them in the boat except for one loaf.+15 And he warned them in no uncertain terms: “Keep your eyes open; look out for the leaven of the Pharisees and the leaven of Herod.”+16 So they began arguing with one another over the fact that they had no bread.17 Noting this, he said to them: “Why do you argue over your having no bread? Do you not yet perceive and understand? Are your hearts still dull in understanding?18 ‘Though having eyes, do you not see; and though having ears, do you not hear?’ Do you not remember19 when I broke the five loaves+ for the 5,000 men, how many baskets full of fragments you collected?” They said to him: “Twelve.”+20 “When I broke the seven loaves for the 4,000 men, how many large baskets* full of fragments did you take up?” And they said to him: “Seven.”+21 With that he said to them: “Do you not yet understand?”
Matthew 16 11 How is it you do not discern that I did not speak to you about bread? But watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”+12 Then they grasped that he said to watch out, not for the leaven of bread, but for the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
You can know God's Truth now.
You can have salvation now.
There is only one book with the written word's of God, and that book is the Holy Bible.

You seem afraid..
That's quite natural .. human beings don't like change .. it turns their world upside down.

You seem so certain that Jesus is God .. you cling on to your belief without logical reason ..
There's a reason why we believe (or say we believe) what we do .. the most important thing of all is our sincerity .. our intention .. the contents of our 'heart' ..

Nobody knows all .. but Almighty God is aware of our deepest thoughts!
 

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
You are giving examples for your teaching of the teaching of the Pharisees So you saying "only God can forgive sins" is teaching "against the truth". What do you think will happen to all those teaching against the truth?

Mark 8 14 However, they forgot to take bread along, and they had nothing with them in the boat except for one loaf.+15 And he warned them in no uncertain terms: “Keep your eyes open; look out for the leaven of the Pharisees and the leaven of Herod.”+16 So they began arguing with one another over the fact that they had no bread.17 Noting this, he said to them: “Why do you argue over your having no bread? Do you not yet perceive and understand? Are your hearts still dull in understanding?18 ‘Though having eyes, do you not see; and though having ears, do you not hear?’ Do you not remember19 when I broke the five loaves+ for the 5,000 men, how many baskets full of fragments you collected?” They said to him: “Twelve.”+20 “When I broke the seven loaves for the 4,000 men, how many large baskets* full of fragments did you take up?” And they said to him: “Seven.”+21 With that he said to them: “Do you not yet understand?”
Matthew 16 11 How is it you do not discern that I did not speak to you about bread? But watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”+12 Then they grasped that he said to watch out, not for the leaven of bread, but for the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
I am not as the Pharisees. The Pharisees and teachers of the law were the only one who did not get baptized. That means they did not repent of their sins. I repented of my sins.

Luke 7:30 But the Pharisees and the experts in the law rejected God's purpose for themselves, because they had not been baptized by John.)
 

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
You seem afraid..
That's quite natural .. human beings don't like change .. it turns their world upside down.

You seem so certain that Jesus is God .. you cling on to your belief without logical reason ..
There's a reason why we believe (or say we believe) what we do .. the most important thing of all is our sincerity .. our intention .. the contents of our 'heart' ..

Nobody knows all .. but Almighty God is aware of our deepest thoughts!
You are misjudging me

I am not afraid.

I have a powerful testimony.

Jesus Christ Himself saved me.

You have only shown me, in your false judgment of me that you are the one who is afraid.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I am not as the Pharisees. The Pharisees and teachers of the law were the only one who did not get baptized. That means they did not repent of their sins. I repented of my sins.

Luke 7:30 But the Pharisees and the experts in the law rejected God's purpose for themselves, because they had not been baptized by John.)
My point was that it was the Pharisees who said "God alone forgives sins". You agree with them who Jesus said "BEWARE!". Instead of listening to Jesus who said "For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses" you listen to the Pharisees who said what you said.
 
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