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Jesus is not god

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
Ingledsva said:
Actually, of the religions of Abraham, only Christianity moves away from ONE God.
Jesus does not say he is God.
Jesus does not say there is a trinity.
The Bible does not say there is a trinity.
These are later traditions of men.
It is not revealed to you.

What's that supposed to mean?
Some people use their intelligence which Almighty God has given them..
..they don't 'cling on' to dogma for the sake of it..
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
God is called Father for a reason.

God's existence doesn't depend on whether you believe in Him or not.

Yes .. and human beings are called 'sons of God' for a reason as well !

I'm not sure whether you know what that reason is .. I've mentioned it before .. it derives from the rules of grammar in various languages..

Almighty God is neither male or female .. He created male & female .. He does not have a wife or parents or any such conjunctive relation at all ! He is aware of every atom of His creation ! ie. the universe
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Jesus is considered by many if not most Muslims to be the greatest leader in the Koran, his Arabic name is Issa(pbuh)
The name ofJesusin the Qur'andepends onthe parent languagefromthe Qur'an
(Aisa) in the Qur'an is the Arabic translation for the word (ESHA) which is still pronounced by people who speak the language Assyrian, Syriac, Chaldean and Syriac
2. my name is (Forum of the three sections of the last syllable is (ishu)
And who speak these languages say (ishwa-amshiha)
The name oftheTorahishwa
He is the leader to build Israel
After the ProphetMoses
Who was the Commander of the sons of Israel to the promised land
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
What .. in a dream, you mean??
Reallyyou followMohammed
1. do you think that Muslims do not go to hell
2. I give you proof of Quran
3. every Muslim to visit hell
4. If you speak Arabic
Go and open the Quran
Reading
(And to you for the face and the RBC provision order written off
Exegeteshavevariedinterpretations)tothis verseofQuran
But one meaning
I translate him you
And my gift to you
Every Muslim to visit hell and this is the command of your Lord
While Christ told us (from security me and Matt it will) you know why
Because the God of Christianity is of God and not God of the dead
5. are you Mitt, they are dead
Thesewords of the Qur'anfrom Muhammad
ThatMitt
Do the deadcangivelife
Seeyour faithdearMuslimbeforevisitinghell
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
وان منكم لواردها وكان امر ربك حكما مقضيا
These words of the Quran in the Arabic language
The meaning of this verse of Quran
And are
A Muslim will enter hell because it is the Lord
But Islamic interpretations try to misin formation and obfuscation on this verse
There fore I tell you, my Muslim
Do you believe in God, who will send you to hell for the purpose of the visit and tourism??
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Because he says and does many of the exact same things in the Koran as he says and does in the Gospels, unless you believe in parallel universes or something. And he has the same mother, Mary, and the same father Joseph etc. etc. If you don't believe me read it for yourself.
The Qur'aniswrongdates
The Qur'an says 1. Mariam Bint Imran
Mariam BintImranis the sisterof Moses
2. Mariam Bint Imran is not the mother of Christ
3. khkaa has occurred in the transfer of translation to the Qur'an
Did not know the difference between the Quran writer Mariam Bint Imran and Maryam Bint Joaquim
4. Joseph Mary knows the Quran
The Qur'anidentifiesJosephson of Jacob
5. the Qur'an accuses Mary of adultery
6. all information in the Qur'an about Christ is false and contradictory also
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Yes .. and human beings are called 'sons of God' for a reason as well !

I'm not sure whether you know what that reason is .. I've mentioned it before .. it derives from the rules of grammar in various languages..

Almighty God is neither male or female .. He created male & female .. He does not have a wife or parents or any such conjunctive relation at all ! He is aware of every atom of His creation ! ie. the universe
We Christianssay(our father in heaven)
Yes, webelievewe are the children ofGodalso
God isour fatherin spirit
God created usfree
Slavery did not create us
To that I say
Godin Christianityis different fromGodin Islam
--
In Islam God is scary and terrible wemnkm
But God in Christianity is the God of love and compassion and freedom
Islamdoes not knowfreedomevenin the faith
While Christianity is the only religion that gives you choice and freedom
To believe in God and you are free
And reject God and you are free
Thisresponsibility
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Actually, of the religions of Abraham, only Christianity moves away from ONE God.

Jesus does not say he is God.

Jesus does not say there is a trinity.

The Bible does not say there is a trinity.

These are later traditions of men.

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Questions were raised
And answer them means to answer
Questionswadagh
1. What is the reason prosecution of Christ
2. is it the suit on Jesus
3. is the judgment of Christ
Answering these questions will give you afull answer
And is that Christ said he is God
But in allegorical lyrics
If you have the Greek version
I own Arabic version of the Bible
I hear you answer my questions such
So I give you the manual
Jesus said that he is God
Wait for answer my questions simple this
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
you believe wrong then :)
I believe if I can see that it is not obvius then the fact that you can't meansthat you are oblivious to the fact that it is not obvious. Since there is a different view from your own. evidence must be presented to support your view and then I will present evidence that your view is incorrect.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Yes and do you know we hear you say "only God can forgive sins". Did you say that? Why would Jesus say we should forgive a sinner if only God forgives sins?
I believe we have to forgive so that the judgement returns to God who is the only one who can judge and forgive.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Come on then .. How did Jesus himself save you ??

If not in a dream, then how could this be? Are you 2000 years old?
..or perhaps you are speaking metaphorically ;)

I believe it is probably as I was saved awake but in a spiritually receptive state. Jesus identifies Himself as the Paraclete and the father as the Paraclete. So although Jesus has been in a body 2000 years somewhere else, the Spirit of God in HIm is everywhere as well and through all of time.
 

mainliner

no one can de-borg my fact's ...NO-ONE!!
. evidence must be presented to support your view and then I will present evidence that your view is incorrect.
why should evidence NEED to be present? .... Iv got nothing to proove:)

and why should i present anything when you've allready decided its incorrect?

this makes no sense.
 

moorea944

Well-Known Member
Ok, who can forgive sins then?.....
Well Yahweh can. Can Jesus forgive sins to or anyone else for that matter? Yes, Jesus can because God "gave him" all power of heaven and earth. But it DOESNT make him God. Can angels forgive sins? Only if God wants them too. Remember the angel that was "baring" God's name in the Tent of Meeting? God spoke "through" an angels (God manifesting Himself through someone). Israel was supposed to listening and obey this angel. He could forgive sins too.

God is our altimate saviour, but He now, he saves us "through" His Son.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
why should evidence NEED to be present? .... Iv got nothing to proove[/COLOR]:)

and why should i present anything when you've allready decided its incorrect?

this makes no sense.

I believe then you are in error because you can't prove that you are right.

I believe in that case I thank you for affirming my decision.

I believe you need to review the rules of logic since I have followed them.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
God is the only righteous judge and is able to absolve a person for righteousness sake. But people actually can judge and be forgiving.

I am not saying that they can't do it as man does things but it is not true judgement or forgiveness becuse it doesn't come from God.
 

Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
What's that supposed to mean?
Some people use their intelligence which Almighty God has given them..
..they don't 'cling on' to dogma for the sake of it..
If you want knowledge about Jesus, you must do what Jesus say to do to get it.
Otherwise, it is not revealed to you.

John 14:21 The one who has My commands and keeps them is the one who loves Me. And the one who loves Me will be loved by My Father. I also will love him and will reveal Myself to him."
 
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Yes

Oh how I love the Word of God!
Yes .. and human beings are called 'sons of God' for a reason as well !

I'm not sure whether you know what that reason is .. I've mentioned it before .. it derives from the rules of grammar in various languages..

Almighty God is neither male or female .. He created male & female .. He does not have a wife or parents or any such conjunctive relation at all ! He is aware of every atom of His creation ! ie. the universe

God calls Himself 'Father', and that is what I call Him.
 
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