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jesus one of the most popular person ever lived

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
paarsurrey said:
Post #63

Neither (Jesus)Yeshua met Saul nor Saul met Yeshua, it was, one must say, cunning Saul's Devil-ish and fake vision to take revenge from Yeshua and his followers, right, please?

Regards
You're saying that. The Bible does not say that. As far as I am concerned Paul had a stunning vision from Jesus Christ himself. Paul got the point and changed his course of action. Naturally not all will believe that, but I do.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Paul obviously heard about Jesus before Jesus spoke to him in a vision. And then Paul realized that Jesus was the Messiah and devoted the rest of his life to following Jesus and teaching about him.
 

Sir Joseph

Member
paarsurrey said:
Post #63

Neither (Jesus)Yeshua met Saul nor Saul met Yeshua, it was, one must say, cunning Saul's Devil-ish and fake vision to take revenge from Yeshua and his followers, right, please?

Regards

Paarsurrey, you have many odd views of Jesus, Paul, and other events that obviously come from non-Christian bible sources.

According to any accepted Christian Holy Bible, Saul of Tarsus encountered the Lord Jesus on the road to Damascus in Acts 9. After being blinded and sent into the city, he was later healed and given his initial calling through the Lord's servant Ananias.

"But the Lord said to Ananias, "Go! This man is my chosen instrument to carry my name before the Gentiles and their kings and before the people of Israel."

Paul had other later encounters with the Lord during his missionary journeys, including specific instructions on where to go and spiritual insight for explaining the scriptures.

Just as people reject the historicity, divinity, and authority of Jesus, such is also done with the Holy Bible - both old and new testaments. So, if you want to believe other views about Jesus or his chosen missionary Paul, you can, but don't think you're drawing interpretations from the Holy Bible or Christian faith. And don't think your alternative sources will ever match the extensive manuscript evidence, historical support, or prophetic nature that the Bible has.

I'd suggest that everyone study the foundational evidence for their belief system - and be sure to compare it to the Christian faith. Only then will one know what story or versions of history to accept as truth.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member

jesus one of the most popular person ever lived

Post #63 *
paarsurrey said:
Neither (Jesus)Yeshua met Saul nor Saul met Yeshua, it was, one must say, cunning Saul's Devil-ish and fake vision to take revenge from Yeshua and his followers, right, please?
odd views of Jesus
Our @Sir Joseph
I love (Jesus)Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah, and I have no odd view of him, he was Son of Mary, and Mary was never a wife of G-d, right, please?

Regards
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* Didn't Yeshua warn of the like of Golden Calf happening after him, so Saul-ines aka Paulines are just that, I understand , right, please?
And "Son of God became God the Son", " Classical philosophy was mixed in", and " Creeds of Trinitarian Christianity" were invented/creeped in, right, please?
 
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YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)

jesus one of the most popular person ever lived

Post #63 *
paarsurrey said:
Neither (Jesus)Yeshua met Saul nor Saul met Yeshua, it was, one must say, cunning Saul's Devil-ish and fake vision to take revenge from Yeshua and his followers, right, please?

I love (Jesus)Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah, and I have no odd view of him, he was Son of Mary, and Mary was never a wife of G-d, right, please?

Regards
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* Didn't Yeshua warn of the like of Golden Calf happening after him, so Saul-ines aka Paulines are just that, I understand , right, please?
And "Son of God became God the Son", " Classical philosophy was mixed in", and " Creeds of Trinitarian Christianity" were invented/creeped in, right, please?
So does your God have a name?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)

jesus one of the most popular person ever lived

Post #63 *
paarsurrey said:
Neither (Jesus)Yeshua met Saul nor Saul met Yeshua, it was, one must say, cunning Saul's Devil-ish and fake vision to take revenge from Yeshua and his followers, right, please?

I love (Jesus)Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah, and I have no odd view of him, he was Son of Mary, and Mary was never a wife of G-d, right, please?

Regards
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* Didn't Yeshua warn of the like of Golden Calf happening after him, so Saul-ines aka Paulines are just that, I understand , right, please?
And "Son of God became God the Son", " Classical philosophy was mixed in", and " Creeds of Trinitarian Christianity" were invented/creeped in, right,I please?
I'll wait until you answer if the god you worship or serve has a name. Then maybe I'll ask you more questions if you don't mind. Thanks, please, and thank you. :)
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I'll wait until you answer if the god you worship or serve has a name. Then maybe I'll ask you more questions if you don't mind. Thanks, please, and thank you. :)
Name of G-d would be many, as my G-d is for all the people of the world, and every people have His name in their own language, but a human being like Jesus/Yeshua was never a G-d of the Israelites, please, right?

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
jesus one of the most popular person ever lived

Not exactly Jesus which is not his name, neither given to him by G-d nor by his mother Mary, it is a Greek/Roman Pauline misnomer, please, right?:
3:46 "When the angels said, ‘O Mary, Allah gives thee glad tidings of a word from Him; his name shall be the Messiah**, Jesus*, son of Mary, honoured in this world and in the next, and of those who are granted nearness to God;" Holy Quran: Read, Listen and Search
*Isa عِیۡسَی
**Masih الۡمَسِیۡحُ
(Original Arabic narration/text from Muhammad's time is below):-
3:46 اِذۡ قَالَتِ الۡمَلٰٓئِکَۃُ یٰمَرۡیَمُ اِنَّ اللّٰہَ یُبَشِّرُکِ بِکَلِمَۃٍ مِّنۡہُ ٭ۖ اسۡمُہُ الۡمَسِیۡحُ عِیۡسَی ابۡنُ مَرۡیَمَ وَجِیۡہًا فِی الدُّنۡیَا وَالۡاٰخِرَۃِ وَمِنَ الۡمُقَرَّبِیۡنَ ﴿ۙ۴۶

OOO
I'll wait until you answer if the god you worship or serve has a name. Then maybe I'll ask you more questions if you don't mind. Thanks, please, and thank you. :)
Friend @YoursTrue
Name of G-d would be many, as my One G-d (Allah-in Arabic),is for all the people of the world, and every people have His name in their own language, but a human being like Jesus/Yeshua was never a G-d of the Israelites, please, right?

Regards
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
jesus one of the most popular person ever lived

Not exactly Jesus which is not his name, neither given to him by G-d nor by his mother Mary, it is a Greek/Roman Pauline misnomer, please, right?:
3:46 "When the angels said, ‘O Mary, Allah gives thee glad tidings of a word from Him; his name shall be the Messiah**, Jesus*, son of Mary, honoured in this world and in the next, and of those who are granted nearness to God;" Holy Quran: Read, Listen and Search
*Isa عِیۡسَی
**Masih الۡمَسِیۡحُ
(Original Arabic narration/text from Muhammad's time is below):-
3:46 اِذۡ قَالَتِ الۡمَلٰٓئِکَۃُ یٰمَرۡیَمُ اِنَّ اللّٰہَ یُبَشِّرُکِ بِکَلِمَۃٍ مِّنۡہُ ٭ۖ اسۡمُہُ الۡمَسِیۡحُ عِیۡسَی ابۡنُ مَرۡیَمَ وَجِیۡہًا فِی الدُّنۡیَا وَالۡاٰخِرَۃِ وَمِنَ الۡمُقَرَّبِیۡنَ ﴿ۙ۴۶

OOO

Friend @YoursTrue
Name of G-d would be many, as my One G-d (Allah-in Arabic),is for all the people of the world, and every people have His name in their own language, but a human being like Jesus/Yeshua was never a G-d of the Israelites, please, right?

Regards
So then, is God a person, in your (humble) opinion? Here's the situation with Jesus, paarsurrey, Jesus was (is) the Son of God. And as has been aptly described by another poster maybe not in a way that I would describe it, nevertheless it makes sense== since Jesus is the only-begotten son of God in a particular sense because there are other sons of God but not like Jesus -- Jesus has now power and authority that God, his Father, gave him.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
jesus one of the most popular person ever lived

Not exactly Jesus which is not his name, neither given to him by G-d nor by his mother Mary, it is a Greek/Roman Pauline misnomer, please, right?:
3:46 "When the angels said, ‘O Mary, Allah gives thee glad tidings of a word from Him; his name shall be the Messiah**, Jesus*, son of Mary, honoured in this world and in the next, and of those who are granted nearness to God;" Holy Quran: Read, Listen and Search
*Isa عِیۡسَی
**Masih الۡمَسِیۡحُ
(Original Arabic narration/text from Muhammad's time is below):-
3:46 اِذۡ قَالَتِ الۡمَلٰٓئِکَۃُ یٰمَرۡیَمُ اِنَّ اللّٰہَ یُبَشِّرُکِ بِکَلِمَۃٍ مِّنۡہُ ٭ۖ اسۡمُہُ الۡمَسِیۡحُ عِیۡسَی ابۡنُ مَرۡیَمَ وَجِیۡہًا فِی الدُّنۡیَا وَالۡاٰخِرَۃِ وَمِنَ الۡمُقَرَّبِیۡنَ ﴿ۙ۴۶

OOO

Friend @YoursTrue
Name of G-d would be many, as my One G-d (Allah-in Arabic),is for all the people of the world, and every people have His name in their own language, but a human being like Jesus/Yeshua was never a G-d of the Israelites, please, right?

Regards
I'd like to go over the "names" of God perhaps another time, since the information is a bit off from what I read about it. Nevertheless, the four Hebrew characters or letters, are written thousands of times in the Hebrew scriptures. Yet many translations cover it over by using the word LORD instead of YHWH or Jehovah (if you're reading English).
 
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