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Jesus story isn't original

fallingblood

fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
MW0082 said:
And we KNOW certain things about how the story of Jesus is plagiarized, you just choose to ignore them. Yet you beleive in soemthing you can NEVER prove.... lol typical....
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Ignore what? Maybe you want to start a thread about how you can show that Jesus was completely plagiarized.
 
ninerbuff

ninerbuff

godless wonder
fallingblood said:
So you accept now that you have no case? That's wonderful. When you actually want to form a logical debate, please come back.
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You can't form logical debates with people who won't be logical. You dismiss any other research but your own. Thanks for playing again.:D
 
fallingblood

fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
ninerbuff said:
You can't form logical debates with people who won't be logical. You dismiss any other research but your own. Thanks for playing again.:D
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I didn't dismiss your lack of research. I showed why it was wrong. You haven't not presented any rebuttals. Clearly, you are just way over your head on this one.
 
fallingblood

fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
MW0082 said:
Wait and you think you have a base for your belief???


oy vey
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I do have a base for my belief concerning Jesus.

As for my personal belief in God, you may want to research Fideism. I'm not pretending I can know if God exists, I don't even believe it is a rational belief. I have the belief for personal reasons. And it is not that belief in God that makes me believe that Jesus existed. I'm not a Christian, I do not believe Jesus was the messiah or the savior. I believe he was just another first century Jewish teacher.

Instead of trying to dismiss me, you would rather debate. As it is now though, you've been proven wrong quite a few times.
 
MW0082

MW0082

Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
fallingblood said:
I do have a base for my belief concerning Jesus.

As for my personal belief in God, you may want to research Fideism. I'm not pretending I can know if God exists, I don't even believe it is a rational belief. I have the belief for personal reasons. And it is not that belief in God that makes me believe that Jesus existed. I'm not a Christian, I do not believe Jesus was the messiah or the savior. I believe he was just another first century Jewish teacher.

Instead of trying to dismiss me, you would rather debate. As it is now though, you've been proven wrong quite a few times.
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You haven't proven anything, your claiming stuff as I am. Yet you perceive yourself to be right, as in self righteous much??? It's a catch 22 with you .....
 
fallingblood

fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
MW0082 said:
You haven't proven anything, your claiming stuff as I am. Yet you perceive yourself to be right, as in self righteous much??? It's a catch 22 with you .....
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Another cop out. If you really want this to work, you should post something that rebuts what I've stated. You haven't done so.

Also it is quite ironic you would label me as self righteous because I believe what I'm saying to be true. Does that mean you believe what you're saying to be false?

Maybe you want to debate the information that I've provided instead of making up excuses.
 
ninerbuff

ninerbuff

godless wonder
falling- For sake of refuting let's hit points one at a time.

Do you accept that the stories of individuals like Heracles and Horus( and even more man gods, but to save space just those 2 for now) preceded that of jesus?
 
MW0082

MW0082

Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
fallingblood said:
Another cop out. If you really want this to work, you should post something that rebuts what I've stated. You haven't done so.

Also it is quite ironic you would label me as self righteous because I believe what I'm saying to be true. Does that mean you believe what you're saying to be false?

Maybe you want to debate the information that I've provided instead of making up excuses.
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No it's not a cop out, what have you proven?

Nothing, because you can't because you could not possibly know for a fact. Which leaves room for interpration, and you cannot stand that. That there could possibly be a hole that someone could rip wide open.

Your self righteous because you leave yourself no room for error, when you shoudl be doing so..... And I honestly do not know if what I believe is right or worng. I know its what I feel after the evidence presented in front of me, and nothing you nor anyone else has said or showed me has made me think otherwise......

Maybe you want to realize that you cannot possibly have the facts... for no one can...
 
fallingblood

fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
ninerbuff said:
falling- For sake of refuting let's hit points one at a time.

Do you accept that the stories of individuals like Heracles and Horus( and even more man gods, but to save space just those 2 for now) preceded that of jesus?
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Yes, I accept that they Horus and Heracles preceded Jesus.
 
fallingblood

fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
MW0082 said:
No it's not a cop out, what have you proven?

Nothing, because you can't because you could not possibly know for a fact. Which leaves room for interpration, and you cannot stand that. That there could possibly be a hole that someone could rip wide open.

Your self righteous because you leave yourself no room for error, when you shoudl be doing so..... And I honestly do not know if what I believe is right or worng. I know its what I feel after the evidence presented in front of me, and nothing you nor anyone else has said or showed me has made me think otherwise......

Maybe you want to realize that you cannot possibly have the facts... for no one can...
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Then why are you debating here? You were proven wrong, and now you are complaining.

I give my self room for error. That is why I never give an exact date for Mark or any other book of the Bible. I don't even give exact details on the life of Jesus.

It is accepted that Mark was written around 70 C.E. That is a fact. We can know beyond a reasonable doubt that Mark was written around 70 C.E. That is a fact. You've posted information that supports what I've stated. That is a fact. Maybe now you want to debate the actual points instead of dismissing the information because it doesn't suit you. Or if you aren't interested in facts, maybe you just want to stop trying to debate.
 
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