Jews call for the dismantling of the Zionist state of Israel

[Revoltingest]

Will you kindly look up the word "hypocrisy" with the above, and maybe take your own advice? There's been reasons why I have put you on my ignore list twice, and it wasn't because you were so level-headed and charming.

Now, now...don't you pile on too, for you're prone to blowing up at me with no more
provocation than a difference in values or opinion. (You did take me off ignore finally.)
I object to bullying, & will posters on it sometimes.

 

[Breathe]

The illegal state was built on a lie. Most zionists are athiests. Athiests don't have a Holy Land to return to since they don't believe in God.

All Palestinians whose land and homes were stolen by these Europeans should be allowed to return, it is their human right according to the UN. When they return they will outnumber the Zionist Europeans many times and then the Muslims, Arabs, Christians and Jews who actually practice Judaism can all live like they did before the Europeans terrorised the nation of Palestine and the British who controlled it at the time who were also the victims of Israeli terrorist attacks.

The thief NEVER becomes the rightful owner of the stolen property he stole. It's something the Jews and believers in God understand but not something the athiest zionists understand.

Regardless of whether your view is correct or incorrect, what would you do?
What can, realistically, be done?

I don't think anything can be done.

 

[columbus]

Apparently you're unaware of the fact that those who have opposed Israel consider the U.S. to be the worst of the two, and this actually has only a bit to do with our support for Israel. To so many in that area of the world, the belief is that the only reason why Americans are so interested to the point for us to get involved is because of one word: oil. And frankly, I can't blame them for being upset with us as this is actually quite true.

If you actually spend time in the Middle East, you can understand why there's such a dichotomy with how so many there view America. Some feel were just greedy jerks and some others admire America because of its freedom and wealth. Some love democracy and modernization, while some others more value tradition and distrust democracy.

Since Israel and the U.S. so much rely on each other, and since Israeli interests are very often our interests, for us to abandon Israel, our closest ally there, would be outrageously stupid because since when have isolationism solved much of anything? If we need to intervene, we need allies there. Some of our technology is from Israel, such as the new ground-to-ground missile that's involved in anti-tank warfare that was developed by the Israelis. Our Patriot missile system uses joint Israeli-American technology. The Intel facility there is unbelievable. Etc.

To abandon an ally like that would send shock waves towards our other allies in that how much can they rely on being partners with America? We promised that we would help defend Israel back when the U.N. partition was decided upon, so now we are going to ignore that? And what about all the Americans that spend so much time in Israel to the point whereas you hear English there all the time?

You may want isolationism because your money is far too important for you to spend that 1/2 of 1% on foreign aid, but I prefer to keep friends and allies in various parts of the world.

So, believe in what you want to believe, but I simply do not agree with your approach.

I'm still noticing that you haven't responded to anything in my post. You mis-represent what I said and respond to that instead. I don't want isolationism and I consider our humanitarian aid budget woefully inadequate.

But you never respond to what I actually post, you just keep going on about other things as though you are responding to me.

That gives me a good idea about how well researched your views are.

Tom

 

[Pink Top Hat]

Apparently you're unaware of the fact that those who have opposed Israel consider the U.S. to be the worst of the two, and this actually has only a bit to do with our support for Israel. To so many in that area of the world, the belief is that the only reason why Americans are so interested to the point for us to get involved is because of one word: oil. And frankly, I can't blame them for being upset with us as this is actually quite true.

If you actually spend time in the Middle East, you can understand why there's such a dichotomy with how so many there view America. Some feel were just greedy jerks and some others admire America because of its freedom and wealth. Some love democracy and modernization, while some others more value tradition and distrust democracy.

Since Israel and the U.S. so much rely on each other, and since Israeli interests are very often our interests, for us to abandon Israel, our closest ally there, would be outrageously stupid because since when have isolationism solved much of anything? If we need to intervene, we need allies there. Some of our technology is from Israel, such as the new ground-to-ground missile that's involved in anti-tank warfare that was developed by the Israelis. Our Patriot missile system uses joint Israeli-American technology. The Intel facility there is unbelievable. Etc.

To abandon an ally like that would send shock waves towards our other allies in that how much can they rely on being partners with America? We promised that we would help defend Israel back when the U.N. partition was decided upon, so now we are going to ignore that? And what about all the Americans that spend so much time in Israel to the point whereas you hear English there all the time?

You may want isolationism because your money is far too important for you to spend that 1/2 of 1% on foreign aid, but I prefer to keep friends and allies in various parts of the world.

So, believe in what you want to believe, but I simply do not agree with your approach.

Soon the Americans will do what everyone else has done and drop the Israel.

The only reason is why it is taking so long is because the nut case Israelis have nuclear weapons and that global threat has to be contained in some way.

The world is not dealing with rational people here or loyal people.

They turned and murdered the troops and officials of the very nation that helped fund and create their terrorist state. Britain! They are ruthless mercenaries and will use and abuse whoever they feel they can still convince that they are victims but support has mostly all but gone now because the world is finally waking up to the danger of the zionism.

As I said before.

If Balfour was alive today and suggested the Balfour Treaty he would be laughed out of the British Parliament and UN. It would never be allowed to happen today. It was a huge historical mistake.

 

[columbus]

Soon the Americans will do what everyone else has done and drop the Israel.

The only reason is why it is taking so long is because the nut case Israelis have nuclear weapons and that global threat has to be contained in some way.

The world is not dealing with rational people here or loyal people.

They turned and murdered the troops and officials of the very nation that helped fund and create their terrorist state. Britain! They are ruthless mercenaries and will use and abuse whoever they feel they can still convince that they are victims but support has mostly all but gone now because the world is finally waking up to the danger of the zionism.

As I said before.

If Balfour was alive today and suggested the Balfour Treaty he would be laughed out of the British Parliament and UN. It would never be allowed to happen today. It was a huge historical mistake.

I wish that were true. I would love to drop Israel.

Unfortunately there are more Zionists in the USA than in Israel. We had one run for president recently. He lost, but it wasn't because of his Zionism. Even our current president had to go before the Jewish lobby and promise to keep supporting Israel.

Tom

 

[Pink Top Hat]

Regardless of whether your view is correct or incorrect, what would you do?
What can, realistically, be done?

I don't think anything can be done.

There is only one solution.

Palestine should be called Palestine as it was before.

All the Palestinians who want to return should return.

Jews Christians and Muslims can live there in peace like they did before the invasion of the Zionists from Europe.

Yes the Muslims will be the majority but the fire will have been taken out of the hearts of the people because there will have been justice at last.

Then there would be peace because there will never be peace without justice and the zionists can go find another zion to live in and cause problems in like Las Vegas or some remote island somewhere where we all don't have to listen to them day after day whining about them being victims and Hitler and holocaust and Stern gang and Mossad assassinations and get rid of the entire nuclear arsenal out of our region at last!

There are few Muslims who would disagree with what I said above.

 

[Sees]

If you were Israel, you would also have such advanced weapons wouldn't you?

I imagine their craze to control and enforce things in their own country is reactive.

Soon the Americans will do what everyone else has done and drop the Israel.

The only reason is why it is taking so long is because the nut case Israelis have nuclear weapons and that global threat has to be contained in some way.

The world is not dealing with rational people here or loyal people.

They turned and murdered the troops and officials of the very nation that helped fund and create their terrorist state. Britain! They are ruthless mercenaries and will use and abuse whoever they feel they can still convince that they are victims but support has mostly all but gone now because the world is finally waking up to the danger of the zionism.

As I said before.

If Balfour was alive today and suggested the Balfour Treaty he would be laughed out of the British Parliament and UN. It would never be allowed to happen today. It was a huge historical mistake.

 

[Flankerl]

I am Egyptian Muslim.

Now it all makes sense.


This is why there never will be peace until all Jews have been cleansed from Israel. But obviously "real Jews" wouldnt be killed. Yeah.


Like in 1929 when only the fake Jews were massacred in Hebron while the antizionist old Yishov wasnt touched.

Oh wait it wasnt like that...

 

[Pink Top Hat]

I wish that were true. I would love to drop Israel.

Unfortunately there are more Zionists in the USA than in Israel. We had one run for president recently. He lost, but it wasn't because of his Zionism. Even our current president had to go before the Jewish lobby and promise to keep supporting Israel.

Tom

Yes the American government is infested with fanatical rapture seeking Christian zionist loving nut cases and it's a huge problem and why the zionists love the situation there. It's their life support system.

It's time for the Americans to wake up now.

These retards will take us all into WW3 you included so it is up to the American people to stop the madness but my guess is your army would be called to kill all of you who ever dared to rise up against your government.
A land full of guns would be a complete bloodbath and we would all be watching on our TV a revolution much bloodier than anything in Benghazi or Cairo.

We are headed to disaster. The only sane world leader at the moment trying to keep a lid on things seems to be Putin and I never thought I would ever thank God for a Russian leadership in foreign affairs, but it just shows us how crazy and out of control the US are now.

 

[Flankerl]

There is only one solution.

Palestine should be called Palestine as it was before.

Syria-Palaestina. If you do it, do it right.

Yes the Muslims will be the majority but the fire will have been taken out of the hearts of the people because there will have been justice at last.

roflmao. Yeah sure...

Then there would be peace because there will never be peace without justice and the zionists can go find another zion to live in and cause problems in like Las Vegas or some remote island somewhere where we all don't have to listen to them day after day whining about them being victims and Hitler and holocaust and Stern gang and Mossad assassinations and get rid of the entire nuclear arsenal out of our region at last!

Do you speak egyptian/coptic? No? Well you should better leave Egypt as you are an Arab invader and only real Egyptians should live in Egypt.

********.

 

[Pink Top Hat]

If you were Israel, you would also have such advanced weapons wouldn't you?

I imagine their craze to control and enforce things in their own country is reactive.

It's as reactive I suppose as if you decided to steal the British Crown jewels and wear them every day and decided no one was going to stop you.

In your utter madness you probably would arm yourself to the teeth and kill anyone who came near to take them off your head and return them to the Queen.

 

[Pink Top Hat]

Now it all makes sense.


This is why there never will be peace until all Jews have been cleansed from Israel. But obviously "real Jews" wouldnt be killed. Yeah.


Like in 1929 when only the fake Jews were massacred in Hebron while the antizionist old Yishov wasnt touched.

Oh wait it wasnt like that...

blah blah blah


you'll be bringing up that old nugget that Ahmedinejad threatened to wipe Israel off the map next LOL

 

[Revoltingest]

Yes the American government is infested with fanatical rapture seeking Christian zionist loving nut cases....

Ugh! I personally know some.
They lobby hard & vote en masse.

 

[columbus]

Yes the American government is infested with fanatical rapture seeking Christian zionist loving nut cases and it's a huge problem and why the zionists love the situation there. It's their life support system.

It's time for the Americans to wake up now.

These retards will take us all into WW3 you included so it is up to the American people to stop the madness but my guess is your army would be called to kill all of you who ever dared to rise up against your government.
A land full of guns would be a complete bloodbath and we would all be watching on our TV a revolution much bloodier than anything in Benghazi or Cairo.

We are headed to disaster. The only sane world leader at the moment trying to keep a lid on things seems to be Putin and I never thought I would ever thank God for a Russian leadership in foreign affairs, but it just shows us how crazy and out of control the US are now.

It isn't just Zionists. It is religionists.
Muslim dictators need Israel and the USA to keep their people distracted from their own oppression. Israeli's need Muslims to separate themselves from their neighbors. US politicians need wedge issues to keep themselves in power.

As usual, religious divides are being used to keep the rich and powerful rich and powerful.

Really, would Arafat have died a billionaire if it weren't for US tax dollars? I don't think so. Would Israel still exist if the USA had stopped supporting it 30 years ago? I don't think so. Would Iran be gearing up for a nuclear weapon if the USA hadn't threatened it? I don't think so.

You think Putin is an improvement
I agree we are headed to disaster. I think the fundamental problem is that once one has divorced their beliefs and world-view from evidence and reason one might wind up believing almost anything. That divorce is generally known as "religion".

Tom

 

[Pink Top Hat]

Ugh! I personally know some.
They lobby hard & vote en masse.

raving lunatics they are

God protect us all from these rapture and the zionist basket cases :wolf::run:

 

[columbus]

raving lunatics they are

God protect us all from these rapture and the zionist basket cases :wolf::run:

I wish Allah would protect me from violent Muslims. They are rather more common than violent Christians or Zionists.:help:
The fact is that there is no God who will do that.

Tom

 

[Pink Top Hat]

It isn't just Zionists. It is religionists.
Muslim dictators need Israel and the USA to keep their people distracted from their own oppression.

which ones?

Israeli's need Muslims to separate themselves from their neighbors. US politicians need wedge issues to keep themselves in power.

Israelis need to cause as much friction as they can between everyone. Right now they are dropping missiles in Gaza. Right his very minute.

As usual, religious divides are being used to keep the rich and powerful rich and powerful.

It's a historical fact that Jews were weapons makers. Goes back centuries. They also were know to supply both sides in any conflict. Nothing changed. They were never known to be loyal to any side and this is expect is partly why they have always never been trusted and persecuted. God himself sent all the prophets except one to fix them but every prophet failed so even he gave up in the end.

Really, would Arafat have died a billionaire if it weren't for US tax dollars? I don't think so.

Arafat a billionaire??? where did you hear that? Did you not see the state of the last clothes he wore and his poverty?

Would Israel still exist if the USA had stopped supporting it 30 years ago? I don't think so.

and once it finally stops it will be gone but they won't go without taking the rest of us with them

Would Iran be gearing up for a nuclear weapon if the USA hadn't threatened it? I don't think so.

I am no lover of Iran BUT I don't for a minute believe they are making nuclear weapons. That's all zionist hasbara.

You think Putin is an improvement

no I said he seems the only one sane on the world stage right now.

I agree we are headed to disaster. I think the fundamental problem is that once one has divorced their beliefs and world-view from evidence and reason one might wind up believing almost anything. That divorce is generally known as "religion".

religion should be a totally personal thing

Tom

 

[Pink Top Hat]

I wish Allah would protect me from violent Muslims. They are rather more common than violent Christians or Zionists.:help:
The fact is that there is no God who will do that.

Tom

where in Mid Western USA do you live that you feel you need to be protected from these violent Muslims? are they attacking you and your home and family? can you leave your house safely to go to work and shopping etc? what crimes did they commit against you in your town? tell me more

 

[Revoltingest]

I wish Allah would protect me from violent Muslims. They are rather more common than violent Christians or Zionists.:help:
The fact is that there is no God who will do that.
Tom

FYI, the Muslims in my area are quite peaceful. Although they did lobby for
a crosswalk on a busy road near here. Death to inconvenient crosswalks!

 

[Pastek]

Arafat a billionaire??? where did you hear that? Did you not see the state of the last clothes he wore and his poverty?

His wife was very rich and it was said that the millions came from Arafat.
I remember an article some years ago saying she spend money on brands like Gucci when she used to live in Paris while Arafat was living in Palestine.