JK Rowling: Profoundly Misunderstood

[The Kilted Heathen]

Biology being key there

Ah, I see we're being willfully ignorant. You're ignoring the secondary requisite to a cis- designation; your gender, which is different than your sex. Since, you know, the world has moved beyond outdated 30 year old terminology from the 90's.

 

[We Never Know]

Because gay men are men and don't want to be women, or have a female psychology. They can be effeminate, but trust me, they still love their male bits and using them.

Does a transfemale not use or like their male bits?

 

[Estro Felino]

"she is a trans woman into men"

How does that differ from being gay besides psychologically?

Ok, What about Vittoria Schisano?. She has had vaginoplasty and she is married to a man.
Tell me how that differs from being a heterosexual woman,

 

[We Never Know]

Ah, I see we're being willfully ignorant. You're ignoring the secondary requisite to a cis- designation; your gender, which is different than your sex. Since, you know, the world has moved beyond outdated 30 year old terminology from the 90's.

Maybe you're being willfully ignorant and think I am wrong because I don't agree with you

 

[Estro Felino]

Because gay men are men and don't want to be women, or have a female psychology. They can be effeminate, but trust me, they still love their male bits and using them.

And won't have a vaginoplasty, above all.

 

[Estro Felino]

False. That is not the reason why she's disliked in general.

I, and many other trans men dislike Blaire White. I am not a trans woman, nor do I date women. Yet I dislike her because she's a sell-out who's entire platform is, "**** you, I got mine".

I respect your opinion.

 

[We Never Know]

Ok, What about Vittoria Schisano?. She has had vaginoplasty and she is married to a man.
Tell me how that differs from being a heterosexual woman,

Do they menstrate?
Do they have ovaries?
Can they get pregnant?
Do they produce eggs?

Interesting fact... A female is born with all the eggs she will ever produce.

Female Reproductive System: Structure & Function.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Does a transfemale not use or like their male bits?

They don't like them, no. The ones who do are transvestites, generally, which is a sexual fetish. Estrogen therapy causes atrophy of the male parts and the ones who stick with it aren't able to function sexually as males, and this is a relief to them.

As for use, transsexuals in general tend to "repurpose" them, especially after the changes that take place after extended hormonal therapy. We use them more inline with our transitioned sex. Honestly, the genital surgeries for either trans men or trans women aren't all that great and have a high rate of complications (including not being to have sex or have an orgasm again) so many of us just make do. At a certain point, you have to accept the limitations of medical science or you'll go crazy.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Maybe you're being willfully ignorant and think I am wrong because I don't agree with you

It's not me that you're ignoring, it's science.

 

[Estro Felino]

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Do they menstruate?
Do they have ovaries?
Can they get pregnant?
Do they produce eggs?

Interesting fact... A female is born with all the eggs she will ever produce.

Female Reproductive System: Structure & Function.

That's a good point.
If God had wanted them to become parents, He would have given them a uterus and all the rest.

She is sterile...and so? She still has heterosexual sex with a man.
It is identical to what a man and a woman do in the bed.

 

[We Never Know]

It's not me that you're ignoring, it's science.

social science

 

[We Never Know]

="Estro Felino, post: 8036638, member: 53826"


That's a good point.
If God had wanted them to become parents, He would have given them a uterus and all the rest.

She is sterile...and so? She still has heterosexual sex with a man.
It is identical to what a man and a woman do in the bed.

Medical procedures can make you to be Pamela Anderson.. But you still aren't Pamela.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

False. That is not the reason why she's disliked in general.

I, and many other trans men dislike Blaire White. I am not a trans woman, nor do I date women. Yet I dislike her because she's a sell-out who's entire platform is, "**** you, I got mine".

How is she a sellout? Because she transitioned hormonally and surgically? I've been accused of having some sort of "privilege" just because I happen to be accepted as a man/male by everyone, without having to come out as anything. Not my fault that testosterone and I just seem to get along.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Medical procedures can make you to be Pamela Anderson.. But you still aren't Pamela.

Pamela was helped along by surgical procedures, herself. Not a good comparison.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

social science

Still a science.

 

[We Never Know]

Pamela was helped along by surgical procedures, herself. Not a good comparison.

But yet she started out "herself"

 

[Estro Felino]

Medical procedures can make you to be Pamela Anderson.. But you still aren't Pamela.

Nobody wants to be Pamela. She is more silicone than skin.

 

[We Never Know]

Still a science.

Like I said, its psychology

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

But yet she started out "herself"

What she is now is certainly not what she was born with.

 

[JDMS]

How is she a sellout? Because she transitioned hormonally and surgically? I've been accused of having some sort of "privilege" just because I happen to be accepted as a man/male by everyone, without having to come out as anything. Not my fault that testosterone and I just seem to get along.

No, no, of course not. I'm also a transsexual myself (hormones, surgery, legal documents, etc). That's not why. The reason I say she's a sell-out is because of how she acts in interviews with cisgender people. She basically allows people such as Ben Shapiro to say she's a man during interviews and lets them use her as an example of "one of the good ones" by not being offended that they are treating her like ****. She's acting as if everyone should be okay with being treated like ****, and if they are not, it's their problem. There are other problems with her as well, but to be honest, I don't have the energy for internal trans discourse nearly as much as I used to, lol.

I'll just link a couple of posts that discuss it. I won't necessarily agree with all the comments, but it's on Reddit, which means the opinions should be slightly less brain-dead than perhaps Twitter or Tumblr.

https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/x8lwgy/what_do_you_people_think_of_blaire_white/
https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/zp42zx/is_blaire_white_a_good_representation_for_trans/

It's not as if I believe that she's the epitome of evil or anything, though. I just don't appreciate how her platform is getting clicks and views and money by pandering to transphobic cis people that would be more than happy to rip away our legal rights to transition if they could.