I hear it works great against dementors.
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Joanne Rowling and witchcraft
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Have some delivered?
YAY I knew you'd get it
Well...no, not really. The traditional view of Jesus has remained pretty consistent. It's true that there are many Jews today who opt for a less-traditional view, but the traditional view is still there.
questfortruth
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No problem. Some Jew accepts Jesus. God does not care about statistics of these transition rates.
I didn't know there were things god didn't care about. Well, you learn something new every day.
Secret Chief
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So? Have you not seen my thread "Proof The Teletubbies are Avatars of the Horsemen of the Apocalypse (Apart from the Gay One)" ?
questfortruth
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God is perfect person. It is good sometimes. For example, I do not care that Hitler has good sleep in 1936 AD.
I don't know what this has to do with what I wrote. Perfection includes not caring about certain things?
Yazata
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My first reaction is 'Who Cares?' I'm not a Christian and I don't really care what the Bible says. I do like the Harry Potter stories though. If QforT sees what he thinks is a contradiction between something in the stories and something the Bible says, that's a question for Ms. Rowling. So my reaction is a shrug. It's not a serious issue for me.
Several other responses are possible. One is to point out that Ms. Rowling has never to my knowledge engaged in witchcraft herself. The only witchcraft is fictional magic conducted by a fictional character. One who, during the course of the many books, came to no end of grief and difficulties on account of it.
Another possible response might be to point out that magic and witchcraft might be two different things. What Harry Potter does and what Hogwarts teaches might not be witchcraft in the Biblical sense at all.
That might involve asking what it is about witchcraft that the Bible opposes. My guess (I'm anything but a biblical scholar) is that what is opposed might be calling on Deities other than Yahweh for supernatural aid. (The Canaanite Baals for instance.)
But magic in the Harry Potter stories isn't worked by calling upon Deities at all. It's more like physics, with occult (hidden) laws in reality that muggles are incapable of discerning or using and are only known to the wizards. That might be closer to physical principles known only to those who have studied physics at a suitable university level and unsuspected by those who haven't. That might be the analogy that Ms. Rowling was reaching for there.
I'll point out Augustine's theory of miracles in that regard. Augustine argued that miracles aren't violations of the natural order. The natural order was as inviolable to Augustine as it is to today's theoretical physicist. Instead miracles are instances and applications of secret laws and principles hidden in the natural order by God ever since creation. So every seemingly supernatural miracle is actually in accordance with a law of nature, even if the miracle in question is a total one-off that's only exemplified that once. In Augustine's view God put particular small print loopholes in reality because in his omniscience he knew that he would have use for them later. Augustine's motivation for arguing that way couldn't have been further from a desire to defend an early medieval version of metaphysical naturalism. His motivation instead was to preserve the consistency of God's actions such that God doesn't make rules and then break them.
And St. Augustine was hugely influential in the early medieval Latin west, during a period when the traditions and beliefs of pre-Christian "Paganism" were being made consistent with Christian thinking. So the idea took hold that the traditional shamans, wizards and wonder-workers of earlier tradition performed their magic by exploiting the same sort of small-print-legalese loopholes that God supposedly originally put in the principles of reality. (And presumably Hogwarts is the Oxford analogue where one goes to learn about them.) It remains an open historical question how much influence these kind of ideas had on the scientific revolution and on subsequent intellectual life.
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questfortruth
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Healthy person should not care about some things. He should not care about satan going to hell.
God is person.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
If God stop caring i would say we are pretty doomed
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Father Heathen
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Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
God is a human being? Thats new to me
im confused
questfortruth
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Jesus is God and Human, it is my faith testimony.God is a human being? Thats new to me
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
But Jesus body died more than 2000 years ago, so Jesus is in sprit now, not human
It's a children's fantasy series. The lady was earning a living and successfully at that.
It promotes witchcraft? How? Is it teaching spells, and encouraging viewers to cast hexes? Isn't this like saying because someone says they are gay, that is "promoting" homosexuality? Isn't that just a tad over-reactive and paranoid?
So, is the restaurant chain Red Lobster promoting the devil, since shellfish is also called an abomination in the OT? Do you believe that, and protest them too?
Father Heathen
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How could you even ask that while school zappings are on the rise?
There is a reason why witchcraft is outlawed in scripture, and its got nothing to do with harry potter topics. It is almost certainly none of the things that Harry Potter encourages. It is about something wrong, something bad. So I don't think JK Rowling would even know how to encourage witchcraft. I think she's just writing a fun story.