Judaism

[Byjayfzv]

One thing that is characteristic about religion in general is that it is pretty much unfalsifiable, which is one reason why there are so many. No one can in reality prove one right or prove one wrong.

But one can use reason to see what's probable. Also, just because something can't be proven wrong doesn't mean it's right.

 

[paarsurrey]

Judaism

How do Jews prove that Judaism is the truth?

Moses did not found Judaism and name it as such, he also did not name his followers as Jews.
Regards

 

[metis]

But one can use reason to see what's probable. Also, just because something can't be proven wrong doesn't mean it's right.

One person's reason is another's fantasy, and your last sentence posits me taking a position that I didn't.

 

[RabbiO]

Judaism

Moses did not found Judaism and name it as such, he also did not name his followers as Jews.
Regards

I take it that now that you have arrived we can look forward to more of your patented "Judaism is a crock" diatribes

 

[metis]

Judaism


Moses did not found Judaism and name it as such, he also did not name his followers as Jews.
Regards

Are you even slightly aware that names sometimes evolve and/or change over time? I can play the same game back with you if you wish: Why are most self-proclaimed Arabs really not Arabs at all?

 

[paarsurrey]

Ah...that is a good question? How do you propose to go about answering it? I'm glad to consult with you on this, but I seriously doubt it will be appreciated by Jews, Xtians, or Muslims.

Why mention Muslims when the thread is about Judaism? Please
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[paarsurrey]

Oh well...thanks for the invite...for those who aren't dead, and aren't stupid/ignorant...we shall turn to observation...

Judaism is baseless...
Xtianity is baseless...
Islam is baseless...


Any more questions?

Let me add:
Atheism is baseless. . .
Agnosticism is baseless. . .
Skepticism is baseless . . .

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

We teach that Judaism is the only legitimate and authentic religion for Jews.

Does it not make Judaism a racial religion?

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[Tumah]

Does it not make Judaism a racial religion?

Regards

Have you heard of any Chinese people converting to African-American?

 

[paarsurrey]

What do you say about the mass revelation with the Israelites at mt. Sinai. Is that considered enough historical evidence?
It's the only good possible evidence for the truth of Judaism?

There is no mass revelation. The prophet/messenger receives the message of Revelation which is for his people also.

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

But one can use reason to see what's probable. Also, just because something can't be proven wrong doesn't mean it's right.

I agree with you.

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

I take it that now that you have arrived we can look forward to more of your patented "Judaism is a crock" diatribes

I never said like that.
I respect the Jews as I respect the others.

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Have you heard of any Chinese people converting to African-American?

They don't belong to any one religion to convert one.
I don't get you, please elaborate.
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[Flankerl]

Seriously metis, RabbiO and Tumah. Why engage him?

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

Nothing in history can no longer be observed that means we can say it didn't happen? I'm not saying it for sure happened, but there is a way to say it most probably or probably happened.

So you believe the Trojan horse most probably most likely did happen?

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

One thing that is characteristic about religion in general is that it is pretty much unfalsifiable, which is one reason why there are so many. No one can in reality prove one right or prove one wrong.

But isn't this in and of it self a reason to question any and all? A proposition which cannot be falsified is by definition a proposition which has no relevance to observable reality!

 

[JustCallMeNick]

Generally speaking, Jews tend not to engage in that kind of behavior voluntarily. "Proving" your religion is "the truth" is usually a facet of universalist religions that are actively proselytizing because they believe theirs to be the only legitimate or effective means of relating to God, and/or that everyone ought to be their religion.

Judaism is not universalist: we are, in fact, forbidden from active proselytization.

Just a quick side note here: I think you have terms reversed. Universalism is not the belief that only your religion is the true one; it's actually the opposite of that.

 

[Tumah]

They don't belong to any one religion to convert one.
I don't get you, please elaborate.
Regards

You suggested that Judaism is a racial religion. I pointed out that if it was a matter of race there would be no conversion to Judaism. Just like a Chinese person can't "convert" to the African race. Since it is possible to convert to Judaism, it is not a racial religion.

Seriously metis, RabbiO and Tumah. Why engage him?

Sometimes the ignorance is just so great that its an affront to humanity and we as human beings need to remedy it.

 

[Byjayfzv]

There is no mass revelation. The prophet/messenger receives the message of Revelation which is for his people also.

Regards

Exodus chap.19 verses 9 - chap20 verse 20

 

[Flankerl]

Sometimes the ignorance is just so great that its an affront to humanity and we as human beings need to remedy it.

But what if it leads to exactly nothing?