Judgment from Yahweh during Chr-stmas Day?

[fantome profane]

Hi Father Heathen. Do you really think it is a mere coincidence that this occurred of all days on Chr-stmas day?

How would you explain when there is beautiful weather on Christmas day? Some years the weather has been mild and pleasant. How do you explain that?

Yes, it is just a day and it is just weather. You are seeing patterns there that do not exist.

 

[F1fan]

How would you explain when there is beautiful weather on Christmas day? Some years the weather has been mild and pleasant. How do you explain that?

That must be Satan. No other explanation.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Yes, it is just a day and it is just weather. You are seeing patterns there that do not exist.

I get so tired of this arrogance!

Perhaps you are unaware, but the ancient Israelites believed that 7 was theologically important. They also religiously eschewed the use of vowels. Do you got that? Do you?!

Now, why do you suppose that Chr-stm-s always falls on the 25th?

And what to you get when you add 2+5?​

And how many consonants are in the word Chr-stm-s?​

Do you truly not see a pattern here?​

 

[fantome profane]

I get so tired of this arrogance!

Perhaps you are unaware, but the ancient Israelites believed that 7 was theologically important. They also religiously eschewed the use of vowels. Do you got that? Do you?!

Now, why do you suppose that Chr-stm-s always falls on the 25th?

And what to you get when you add 2+5?​

And how many consonants are in the word Chr-stm-s?​

Do you truly not see a pattern here?​

No I don't.

(7 letters)

 

[Wandering Monk]

Seems like God is always mad about something, doesn't it. The word 'implacable' springs to mind.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Hi The Sum of Awe. It's not discreet though. The Assemblies of Yahweh has been teaching on television and radio that Chr-stmas is pagan. The fact that it is is actually quite well known. Is this really a way to teach a lesson you ask. Yes it is. Because words alone aren't changing people. How many people have repented of keeping this pagan festival by listening to words, but judgments speak louder than words and they are ingrained in the memory. Perhaps people will wake up to the fact that this pagan season is not pleasing to Yahweh.

I really cannot judge. In my town in Australia we had the most beautiful weather you could ever imagine for Christmas Day. So I can’t say that USA and Canada were judged by God.

 

[Colt]

For the run up to Chr-stmas, I have been debating with various people regarding the pagan nature of Chr-stmas, how it isn’t Biblical and how Yahweh is deeply displeased with those who engage in it. I was pleasantly surprised to hear how some people on RF know about the Saturnalia, Bacchanalia and Paganalia that existed before the birth of the Messiah, yet were celebrated around December 25th with the same symbols and practices that are kept at Chr-stmas. Only someone with a very limited thinking process would think that these things are merely coincidence. But Chr-stmas is over, however, I wanted to mention the fact that deadly blizzards have been raging across the U.S.A and in Canada with a special concentration on Chr-stmas day. Perhaps you were one of the people that were affected by this. So I’m going to ask the question that people on RF seem to be avoiding. Is this judgment from Yahweh? I don’t think it is mere coincidence that on Chr-stmas day this should take place. Now I want to start by saying I’m not gloating that many people have died during Xmas. Let me say that whenever they are deaths involved, I’m not happy about it, regardless if people were engaging in sinful practices. My attitude echoes Yahweh in Ezekiel 33:11 “Say to them, ‘As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Yahweh, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel?’ Proverbs 24 says:

“Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth,
And let not thy heart be glad when he is overthrown;
18 Lest Yahweh see it, and it displease him,
And he turn away his wrath from him.”

The Buffalo storms have been classed as “a crisis of epic proportion” and “the worst of the worst” by the New York Governor Kathy Hochul, a native of Buffalo, where 2.4-metre (8-foot) snow drifts against front doors and power outages in freezing temperatures have created life-threatening conditions. More than 200,000 people across several eastern states woke up without power on Christmas morning, and many more had their holiday travel plans upended although the five-day-long storm featuring blizzard conditions and ferocious winds showed signs of easing. The two dozen weather-related deaths were confirmed across eight states, but some US media reported as many as 30 storm-linked fatalities, including four people in Colorado who likely died of exposure and at least seven in western New York.

In Canada, hundreds of thousands of people were left without power in Ontario and Quebec, many flights were canceled in major cities and train passenger service between Toronto and Ottawa was suspended.

Much of the US experienced some sort of winter weather during the large storm, which was generated by a bomb cyclone, a meteorological phenomenon when the atmospheric pressure quickly drops in a strong storm.

What does anger me is that people, I know, are blaming Yahweh for not allowing them to see their loved ones, or friends during this time. For ruining their Xmas, which according to the Chr-stian faith is the holiest day of the year, yet has no basis in the Bible. Yahshua was not even born on December 25, and further, Yahweh doesn’t command we remember his birth but his death at the Passover on the correct day set by the lunar calendar. I know some people are even blaming Yahweh because people have died, at least 60. Instead of blaming Yahweh, why don’t people start asking themselves the question, What am I doing wrong? **Mod Edit**

The mistake you are making is that you think God thinks like you think. Much of the Old Testament is that way. God looks into the heart and judges by sincere intentions. IMOP

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

For the run up to Chr-stmas, I have been debating with various people regarding the pagan nature of Chr-stmas, how it isn’t Biblical and how Yahweh is deeply displeased with those who engage in it. I was pleasantly surprised to hear how some people on RF know about the Saturnalia, Bacchanalia and Paganalia that existed before the birth of the Messiah, yet were celebrated around December 25th with the same symbols and practices that are kept at Chr-stmas. Only someone with a very limited thinking process would think that these things are merely coincidence. But Chr-stmas is over, however, I wanted to mention the fact that deadly blizzards have been raging across the U.S.A and in Canada with a special concentration on Chr-stmas day. Perhaps you were one of the people that were affected by this. So I’m going to ask the question that people on RF seem to be avoiding. Is this judgment from Yahweh? I don’t think it is mere coincidence that on Chr-stmas day this should take place. Now I want to start by saying I’m not gloating that many people have died during Xmas. Let me say that whenever they are deaths involved, I’m not happy about it, regardless if people were engaging in sinful practices. My attitude echoes Yahweh in Ezekiel 33:11 “Say to them, ‘As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Yahweh, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel?’ Proverbs 24 says:

“Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth,
And let not thy heart be glad when he is overthrown;
18 Lest Yahweh see it, and it displease him,
And he turn away his wrath from him.”

The Buffalo storms have been classed as “a crisis of epic proportion” and “the worst of the worst” by the New York Governor Kathy Hochul, a native of Buffalo, where 2.4-metre (8-foot) snow drifts against front doors and power outages in freezing temperatures have created life-threatening conditions. More than 200,000 people across several eastern states woke up without power on Christmas morning, and many more had their holiday travel plans upended although the five-day-long storm featuring blizzard conditions and ferocious winds showed signs of easing. The two dozen weather-related deaths were confirmed across eight states, but some US media reported as many as 30 storm-linked fatalities, including four people in Colorado who likely died of exposure and at least seven in western New York.

In Canada, hundreds of thousands of people were left without power in Ontario and Quebec, many flights were canceled in major cities and train passenger service between Toronto and Ottawa was suspended.

Much of the US experienced some sort of winter weather during the large storm, which was generated by a bomb cyclone, a meteorological phenomenon when the atmospheric pressure quickly drops in a strong storm.

What does anger me is that people, I know, are blaming Yahweh for not allowing them to see their loved ones, or friends during this time. For ruining their Xmas, which according to the Chr-stian faith is the holiest day of the year, yet has no basis in the Bible. Yahshua was not even born on December 25, and further, Yahweh doesn’t command we remember his birth but his death at the Passover on the correct day set by the lunar calendar. I know some people are even blaming Yahweh because people have died, at least 60. Instead of blaming Yahweh, why don’t people start asking themselves the question, What am I doing wrong? **Mod Edit**

Out of all the things that God could judge America and the world for, He's going to kill a bunch of people, wreck travel and cause power outages and property damage for... people wanting to be with their loved ones, show goodwill towards each other and celebrate the birth of His Son? You make God sound like a petty monster. God in the OT wasn't petty like that. You insult God and blaspheme against Him. You also insulted those who died by essentially calling them "wicked". I guess those people who got stranded on their way home from work in Buffalo and froze to death in their cars because emergency services couldn't find them in time deserved it, right? How disrespectful and offensive. Consider that you need to repent. Go get a sense of compassion. I think that God values that more than toxic puritanicalism.

 

[InChrist]

For the run up to Chr-stmas, I have been debating with various people regarding the pagan nature of Chr-stmas, how it isn’t Biblical and how Yahweh is deeply displeased with those who engage in it. I was pleasantly surprised to hear how some people on RF know about the Saturnalia, Bacchanalia and Paganalia that existed before the birth of the Messiah, yet were celebrated around December 25th with the same symbols and practices that are kept at Chr-stmas. Only someone with a very limited thinking process would think that these things are merely coincidence. But Chr-stmas is over, however, I wanted to mention the fact that deadly blizzards have been raging across the U.S.A and in Canada with a special concentration on Chr-stmas day. Perhaps you were one of the people that were affected by this. So I’m going to ask the question that people on RF seem to be avoiding. Is this judgment from Yahweh? I don’t think it is mere coincidence that on Chr-stmas day this should take place. Now I want to start by saying I’m not gloating that many people have died during Xmas. Let me say that whenever they are deaths involved, I’m not happy about it, regardless if people were engaging in sinful practices. My attitude echoes Yahweh in Ezekiel 33:11 “Say to them, ‘As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Yahweh, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel?’ Proverbs 24 says:

“Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth,
And let not thy heart be glad when he is overthrown;
18 Lest Yahweh see it, and it displease him,
And he turn away his wrath from him.”

The Buffalo storms have been classed as “a crisis of epic proportion” and “the worst of the worst” by the New York Governor Kathy Hochul, a native of Buffalo, where 2.4-metre (8-foot) snow drifts against front doors and power outages in freezing temperatures have created life-threatening conditions. More than 200,000 people across several eastern states woke up without power on Christmas morning, and many more had their holiday travel plans upended although the five-day-long storm featuring blizzard conditions and ferocious winds showed signs of easing. The two dozen weather-related deaths were confirmed across eight states, but some US media reported as many as 30 storm-linked fatalities, including four people in Colorado who likely died of exposure and at least seven in western New York.

In Canada, hundreds of thousands of people were left without power in Ontario and Quebec, many flights were canceled in major cities and train passenger service between Toronto and Ottawa was suspended.

Much of the US experienced some sort of winter weather during the large storm, which was generated by a bomb cyclone, a meteorological phenomenon when the atmospheric pressure quickly drops in a strong storm.

What does anger me is that people, I know, are blaming Yahweh for not allowing them to see their loved ones, or friends during this time. For ruining their Xmas, which according to the Chr-stian faith is the holiest day of the year, yet has no basis in the Bible. Yahshua was not even born on December 25, and further, Yahweh doesn’t command we remember his birth but his death at the Passover on the correct day set by the lunar calendar. I know some people are even blaming Yahweh because people have died, at least 60. Instead of blaming Yahweh, why don’t people start asking themselves the question, What am I doing wrong? **Mod Edit**

Pretty much anything on this earth has some history or connection to paganism; names of the days of the week, birthday cakes, wedding rings, and the list goes on.
Unless someone is purposely celebrating Saturnalia, Bacchanalia, or Paganalia then Christmas is NOT a pagan celebration. If one is celebrating the birth of Christ and rejoicing in Him, then it is by no means pagan. For those who don’t really acknowledge Christ, then their Christmas celebration is just a secular celebration, party time, or day off.


Is Christmas a pagan holiday? | GotQuestions.org

 

[DNB]

It's too easy to take any random natural occurrence and attribute it to something that you believe God dislikes. "That earthquake was because God hates shrimp!", "That tornado was because God hates crop rotation!", etc.

...why in-the-world are you being so out-of-context? @Messianic Israelite said that the blizzard happened on Christmas day - that's the correlation.
I personally don't believe that the storm had anything to do with XMas, but I do equally believe that Christmas is an abomination to God, Jesus, and all the Apostles

 

[DNB]

Pretty much anything on this earth has some history or connection to paganism; names of the days of the week, birthday cakes, wedding rings, and the list goes on.
Unless someone is purposely celebrating Saturnalia, Bacchanalia, or Paganalia then Christmas is NOT a pagan celebration. If one is celebrating the birth of Christ and rejoicing in Him, then it is by no means pagan. For those who don’t really acknowledge Christ, then their Christmas celebration is just a secular celebration, party time, or day off.


Is Christmas a pagan holiday? | GotQuestions.org

FYI @Messianic Israelite

@InChrist
But, it's more offensive when you call something holy when it's not. Celebrating a particular day in honour of Christ is disgraceful - every day is Christ's day for those who are eternally saved. Christ was King of Kings, Saviour and Messiah - why in the world do I, you, or anyone else, receive a gift on his alleged B'day?
Since the Bible never divulges the day of Christ's birth, assumedly because no one needs to know, it is both misguided and heretical to try and establish a date for it.

And, even still, that whether or not, for some, Christmas is a time for Christian reflection, the isolation of this sentiment down to one day a year, tends to instill reverent complacency for the rest of the year.

Christmas is not Christian!

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

why in the world do I, you, or anyone else, receive a gift on his alleged B'day?

What the hell does that have to with Christian church services/liturgies celebrating the nativity of Christ? I haven't gotten or given a Christmas gift in years, but I'll sure go to Mass. The presents, Santa and such are irrelevant to the Christian celebration of Christmas. That's a cultural thing only.

 

[InChrist]

FYI @Messianic Israelite

@InChrist
But, it's more offensive when you call something holy when it's not. Celebrating a particular day in honour of Christ is disgraceful - every day is Christ's day for those who are eternally saved. Christ was King of Kings, Saviour and Messiah - why in the world do I, you, or anyone else, receive a gift on his alleged B'day?
Since the Bible never divulges the day of Christ's birth, assumedly because no one needs to know, it is both misguided and heretical to try and establish a date for it.

And, even still, that whether or not, for some, Christmas is a time for Christian reflection, the isolation of this sentiment down to one day a year, tends to instill reverent complacency for the rest of the year.

Christmas is not Christian!

I think we’ll have agree to respectfully disagree (Romans 14:1-13).
I think celebrating the coming of the Son of God into this dark, fallen world is worth celebrating. It’s wonderful opportunity to exalt the name of Jesus Christ and share the gospel. Certainly, Christians should do that all year long, nevertheless, many in the world are more receptive at Christmas. Giving gifts is a reminder of God’s greatest gift: Jesus Christ and a way to share love with others.

Should we give gifts at Christmas? | GotQuestions.org

 

[Glaurung]

Indeed, the world must exercise all trace of this popish observance lest the wrath of God become yet more severe. Come out of her my people lest ye partake in her sins. Let us then free ourselves of Romish influence and return at once to the pure and simple word of God. Let us do away with their abominations and do only that which the Lord hath plainly mandated in Scripture. Surely the blessings of God follow His elect!

 

[pearl]

. Let us then free ourselves of Romish influence and return at once to the pure and simple word of God.

You do realize the celebration of Christmas is not only Roman.

 

[Glaurung]

You do realize the celebration of Christmas is not only Roman.

I'm being facetious. I haven't actually converted to Puritanism. I love Christmas. It's my favorite time of the liturgical year.

 

[Father Heathen]

...why in-the-world are you being so out-of-context? @Messianic Israelite said that the blizzard happened on Christmas day - that's the correlation.
I personally don't believe that the storm had anything to do with XMas, but I do equally believe that Christmas is an abomination to God, Jesus, and all the Apostles

So if god approved of Christmas, the weather on that day would always be pleasant and delightful, year after year?

 

[Curious George]

For the run up to Chr-stmas, I have been debating with various people regarding the pagan nature of Chr-stmas, how it isn’t Biblical and how Yahweh is deeply displeased with those who engage in it. I was pleasantly surprised to hear how some people on RF know about the Saturnalia, Bacchanalia and Paganalia that existed before the birth of the Messiah, yet were celebrated around December 25th with the same symbols and practices that are kept at Chr-stmas. Only someone with a very limited thinking process would think that these things are merely coincidence. But Chr-stmas is over, however, I wanted to mention the fact that deadly blizzards have been raging across the U.S.A and in Canada with a special concentration on Chr-stmas day. Perhaps you were one of the people that were affected by this. So I’m going to ask the question that people on RF seem to be avoiding. Is this judgment from Yahweh? I don’t think it is mere coincidence that on Chr-stmas day this should take place. Now I want to start by saying I’m not gloating that many people have died during Xmas. Let me say that whenever they are deaths involved, I’m not happy about it, regardless if people were engaging in sinful practices. My attitude echoes Yahweh in Ezekiel 33:11 “Say to them, ‘As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Yahweh, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel?’ Proverbs 24 says:

“Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth,
And let not thy heart be glad when he is overthrown;
18 Lest Yahweh see it, and it displease him,
And he turn away his wrath from him.”

The Buffalo storms have been classed as “a crisis of epic proportion” and “the worst of the worst” by the New York Governor Kathy Hochul, a native of Buffalo, where 2.4-metre (8-foot) snow drifts against front doors and power outages in freezing temperatures have created life-threatening conditions. More than 200,000 people across several eastern states woke up without power on Christmas morning, and many more had their holiday travel plans upended although the five-day-long storm featuring blizzard conditions and ferocious winds showed signs of easing. The two dozen weather-related deaths were confirmed across eight states, but some US media reported as many as 30 storm-linked fatalities, including four people in Colorado who likely died of exposure and at least seven in western New York.

In Canada, hundreds of thousands of people were left without power in Ontario and Quebec, many flights were canceled in major cities and train passenger service between Toronto and Ottawa was suspended.

Much of the US experienced some sort of winter weather during the large storm, which was generated by a bomb cyclone, a meteorological phenomenon when the atmospheric pressure quickly drops in a strong storm.

What does anger me is that people, I know, are blaming Yahweh for not allowing them to see their loved ones, or friends during this time. For ruining their Xmas, which according to the Chr-stian faith is the holiest day of the year, yet has no basis in the Bible. Yahshua was not even born on December 25, and further, Yahweh doesn’t command we remember his birth but his death at the Passover on the correct day set by the lunar calendar. I know some people are even blaming Yahweh because people have died, at least 60. Instead of blaming Yahweh, why don’t people start asking themselves the question, What am I doing wrong? **Mod Edit**

But isn’t it also possible that this god would know you were going to write this, and because this god loathes hubris of those assuming to know its thoughts and feelings (see generally Job), this god went on a murderous rampage because it knew you specifically are not happy when people die?

also, Isn’t it possible that this god was gambling again and the reason for its murderous rampage is completely removed from anything on our lowly plane?

 

[fantome profane]

...why in-the-world are you being so out-of-context? @Messianic Israelite said that the blizzard happened on Christmas day - that's the correlation.
I personally don't believe that the storm had anything to do with XMas, but I do equally believe that Christmas is an abomination to God, Jesus, and all the Apostles

Where I live we had a cold snap and some windy conditions on the 23rd of December. On Christmas day things had calmed down and warmed up. Other places were still having problems on Christmas day but the storm did not start on Christmas. It is easy to find "correlation" if you are willing to fudge the facts a little.

 

[Oeste]

I have been debating with various people regarding the pagan nature of Chr-stmas, how it isn’t Biblical and how Yahweh is deeply displeased with those who engage in it.

Are you sure God is displeased, and not simply the Assemblies of Yahweh?

Saturnalia, Bacchanalia and Paganalia that existed before the birth of the Messiah,

,
We had a great Christmas celebration at my church, and while Jesus/Yeshua was often mentioned, Saturnalia, Bacchanalia and Paganalia never came up.

In fact, I am pretty sure our pastor would have received nothing but blank stares and confused faces had the pastor told us to give thanks to Saturnalia or any other pagan god. So while these names may long live in secular history and the Assemblies of Yahweh, they appear to be all but gone, forgotten and/or abandoned by those in the traditional Christian church.

...yet were celebrated around December 25th with the same symbols and practices that are kept at Chr-stmas.

Yes, they sang to their gods, and we sing to God.
They praised their gods, and we praise God.
They gathered together for their gods, and we gather for our God.
They built structures to gather, and we do the same.
They gave thanks to their gods, and we give thanks to God.

There are a lot of things pagans and Christians have in common as @InChrist has already pointed out.

Me stubbing my toe is a human error. One that would come about by my own carelessness. In the Bible, the scriptures contain many examples of Yahweh controlling the weather and using it to punish, or direct people and nations.

• The global flood (Genesis 6:5-9:19)
• Hailstorms, thunder and lightning in Egypt (Exodus 9:23-29)
• Tornadoes, hurricanes and drought (Nahum 1:2-4)
• Thunder (1 Samuel 7:10)
• Drought and famine judgments (Leviticus 26:19-20, Deuteronomy 11:13-15; 28:24; 2 Samuel 21:1; Hosea 13:15; Zechariah 14:17)
• No rain caused by sin (1 Kings 8:35-36)

These are all declared by God and recorded in scripture. In contrast, we have the Assemblies of Yahweh declaring the same about Christmas.

I believe you may be confusing Declarations by God and declarations by the Assemblies of Yahweh as one and the same. We should not confuse the two.

Praising God and His Son is not an evil thing meriting death on Christmas or any other day. We should not call evil good and good evil. And while I can read about the global flood in scripture, I cannot seem to find anything specifically mentioning the late December blizzard of 2022.