JW's Preach A Different Gospel

[jeager106]

All my good posts to the pit they go! What does this mean? The ignore feature here is a wonderful thing. Now I know what dead feels like.

No point in using "ignore". Your posts are at least interesting.
Perhaps you could just not take anything in a personal manner?
Is it worth it to you to post injurious material on a religious forum?
I doubt ANYONE has a perfect handle on the Christian Bible.

 

[jeager106]

Jehovah's Witnesses do not teach that. In fact, they are taught that if you leave them Jehovah won't accept your worship.

I think you are not listening.

Ahhhhh, I think I listen pretty well but am only a man trying to do the best I can with
what I have.

 

[Nada]

So, you want to talk propaganda techniques, good we can go there also. Did you know, according to the GB that independent thinking is from satan himself?


*** g78 8/22 p. 3 Do Others Do Your Thinking? *** (Awake! 1978)
Propagandists have little respect for people’s thinking abilities. Hitler wrote: “The intelligence of the masses is small. Their forgetfulness is great. They must be told the same thing a thousand times.” Lenin was more discriminating. He used historical and scientific arguments to persuade the educated minority, but slogans and half-truths to arouse the masses, whom he considered unable to grasp complicated ideas. The pen may be mightier than the sword, but oftentimes it is used to prepare the way before the sword. (emphasis mine)


*** w89 9/15 p. 23 par. 13 Be Obedient to Those Taking the Lead ***
13In the world, there is a tendency to reject leadership. As one lecturer said: “The rising education level has improved the talent pool such that followers have become so critical that they are almost impossible to lead.”


*** w83 1/15 p. 22 Exposing the Devil’s Subtle Designs ***
20 From the very outset of his rebellion Satan called into question God’s way of doing things. He promoted independent thinking. ‘You can decide for yourself what is good and bad,’ Satan told Eve. ‘You don’t have to listen to God. He is not really telling you the truth.’ (Genesis 3:1-5) To this day, it has been Satan’s subtle design to infect God’s people with this type of thinking.—2 Timothy 3:1, 13.

21 How is such independent thinking manifested? A common way is by questioning the counsel that is provided by God’s visible organization.


*** km 9/07 p. 3 Question Box ***

Surely we are grateful for Jehovah’s spiritual provisions in these last days. Thus, “the faithful and discreet slave” does not endorse any literature, meetings, or Web sites that are not produced or organized under its oversight.—Matt. 24:45-47.

It reminds me of what Gods word says.

Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;

Proverbs 28:26 Those who trust in themselves are fools, but those who walk in wisdom are kept safe.

James 1:14-16. 14 But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. 15Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.16Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.…

It seems God's word encourages us not to rely on our own understandings.

Mark 7:21 For it is from within, out of a person's heart, that evil thoughts come--sexual immorality, theft, murder,

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?

 

[savagewind]

No point in using "ignore". Your posts are at least interesting.
Perhaps you could just not take anything in a personal manner?
Is it worth it to you to post injurious material on a religious forum?
I doubt ANYONE has a perfect handle on the Christian Bible.

Jesus has a perfect handle on the Christian Bible. I believe he lives. I believe he can communicate. That is what living is. Isn't it? Does Jesus live? If yes, then why can't he talk?

 

[Nada]

Yeah, nice try to you also! What does Philippians 1:15-18 say? It's apparent you didn't read that!

Apparently there is much you read but do not understand.

 

[savagewind]

It reminds me of what Gods word says.

Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;

Proverbs 28:26 Those who trust in themselves are fools, but those who walk in wisdom are kept safe.

James 1:14-16. 14 But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. 15Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.16Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.…

It seems God's word encourages us not to rely on our own understandings.

Mark 7:21 For it is from within, out of a person's heart, that evil thoughts come--sexual immorality, theft, murder,

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?

Just shoot me now. What you have posted you won't do and we should not do, but THE GOVERNING BODY DO. You want proof maybe? Oh, I forget I am dead.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

@djhwoodwerks

Here is some poo-poo I found on the net.
The Truth About Catholicism

"The purpose of this article is to turn the spotlight of truth upon Roman Catholicism both as to its past history and present teachings. Our sincere desire is to be of help to Catholics, many of whom are well aware that, in recent years, their church has been Instituting many changes, most of which have left them confused, uncertain, and deeply troubled. For the first time in their lives, many Catholics are raising serious questions about t their Church, its leaders, its teachings and its practices. They now realize that their church is not united but divided over issues such as birth control, abortion, divorce, celibacy for priests, women clergy, gay clergy, Papalinfallibility, prayer, worship, music, purgatory, confession and even the meaning of the Mass. The moral degeneracy and financial scandals which have rocked the Charismatic movement have also been exposed in the Roman Catholic Church, all the way from the Vatican to the local parish. Confusion reigns supreme and Catholics who take their religion seriously don't know which way to turn."

Note to Catholics. I detest digging up religious information as dirt so please understand
I'm not knocking anyone's religion. This is addressed to djhwoodwerk to simply show that
anyone can dig up ka-ka on any religion.
People are free to worship as they see fit.
Period.
And without the bashing that is going on here by a few.

Then why are you here?

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Apparently there is much you read but do not understand.

Please enlighten me!

 

[JFish123]

...nit-picking...!

Really............ A thread starts with the title, 'JWs teach a different Gospel', which expands to 'False Gospel'.
Next posts tell us how arrogant JWs, are, then that they don't door-knock' correctly.
We read of things that happened 80 years ago .....
The muck chucking contest for so called Christians..........

I've been to many kinds of Church, and listened to many kinds of Christians, and I'm amazed at how many have held a 'that lot can't teach us anything' or a 'that lot are so bad' attitude between each other. The Christians who I respect most do not chuck muck at anybody...... they live Christian lives, showing Christian values, walking the walk rather talking the talk, and one of the faiths that exhibit this impressive behaviour are Jehovah's Witnesses. They don't chuck muck at anybody, they just explain their own beliefs and show their faith through the way that they live.

The more that you criticise them and put them down, so the more do I see how much you envy their success, thriving and growing whilst other churches empty and get sold off (in the UK).

I cannot be a JW, but if I had embraced any Abrahamic religion it would surely have been theirs.

I need to leave this thread because there's nothing more that I can write, and nothing more that I need to read......

All the best to everybody....

It's really not bit picking. You say that only because you were proven wrong. No offense of course. But telling someone and then explaining why there wrong isn't not picking. Otherwise no one would tell anybody there wrong and try to correct them. What chaos. And no, I don't envy JW's at all. Isn't envy a sin? they preach a different gospel then that of the bible so yes, it is a false gospel.

 

[Nada]

Please enlighten me!

From your comments it is more than obvious.You sing a different tune than that of the true follower of God.

 

[savagewind]

From your comments it is more than obvious.You sing a different tune than that of the true follower of God.

Well, that is right because we follow God's son.

I think you follow the Watchtower.

And I hate that guy with the moving glasses. I mean that picture of the guy. It is 100 times worse than the bug.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

From your comments it is more than obvious.You sing a different tune than that of the true follower of God.

You're allowed your opinion. But, that's all it is, an opinion!

 

[Nada]

It's really not bit picking. You say that only because you were proven wrong. No offense of course. But telling someone and then explaining why there wrong isn't not picking. Otherwise no one would tell anybody there wrong and try to correct them. What chaos. And no, I don't envy JW's at all. Isn't envy a sin? they preach a different gospel then that of the bible so yes, it is a false gospel.

Correction,they teach exactly what is taught in the holy scriptures.They do thorough studies.An accurate knowledge of the truth.What is misunderstood by many,such as yourself,is all based on self interpretations and misconceptions, based on traditional thinking.Man made doctrines.None of which has any biblical backing whatsoever.

 

[JFish123]

Not to mention the fact that it is illegal to desecrate someone's grave. If Russell were here today, he would order it torn down. He made some wrong assumptions but they have long been corrected. He misinterpreted a scripture in Isaiah. Unlike the churches of Christendom, when we find out that things are in error, we correct them.

Christendom knows about the pagan origins of many of their beliefs, but they cling to them in spite of knowing the truth about them. They justify them and keep right on doing them. Which course would God approve?

Christendom corrected the Apostate Arius long ago for not believing Jesus was God despite the evidence so Christendom corrects my friend

 

[JFish123]

Correction,they teach exactly what is taught in the holy scriptures.They do thorough studies.An accurate knowledge of the truth.What is misunderstood by many,such as yourself,is all based on self interpretations and misconceptions, based on traditional thinking.Man made doctrines.None of which has any biblical backing whatsoever.

Right, so them changing there bible to suit there theological premises was just all made up despite all the evidence? I guess it's a right wing of Christendom Conspiracy. How dare you Christendom!!!

 

[djhwoodwerks]

It reminds me of what Gods word says.

Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;

Proverbs 28:26 Those who trust in themselves are fools, but those who walk in wisdom are kept safe.

James 1:14-16. 14 But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. 15Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.16Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.…

It seems God's word encourages us not to rely on our own understandings.

Mark 7:21 For it is from within, out of a person's heart, that evil thoughts come--sexual immorality, theft, murder,

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?

Psa 118:8-9 (ESVST) 8 It is better to take refuge in the Lord than to trust in man. 9 It is better to take refuge in the Lord than to trust in princes.

Psa 146:3 (ESVST) 3 Put not your trust in princes, in a son of man, in whom there is no salvation.

Jer 17:5 (ESVST) 5 Thus says the Lord: "Cursed is the man who trusts in man and makes flesh his strength,



*** w93 9/15 p. 22 They Compassionately Shepherd the Little Sheep ***
But if we were to draw away from Jehovah’s organization, there would be no place else to go for salvation and true joy. (Compare John 6:66-69.)


*** w09 2/15 p. 24 par. 3 They “Keep Following the Lamb” ***
There are many reasons why the slave class deserves our trust


*** w09 2/15 p. 27 par. 12 They “Keep Following the Lamb” ***
The slave thus deserves our complete trust.


*** w04 9/1 p. 17 par. 18 Beware of “the Voice of Strangers” ***
He teaches us to make disciples and to trust “the faithful and discreet slave.”


*** w09 2/15 p. 24 par. 3 They “Keep Following the Lamb” ***
There are many reasons why the slave class deserves our trust. Two outstanding reasons are: (1) Jehovah trusts the slave class. (2) Jesus also trusts the slave. Let us examine the evidence that both Jehovah God and Jesus Christ have complete confidence in the faithful and discreet slave.

Who's right, the Bible or the slave? Who do you put your trust in?

 

[Nada]

Right, so them changing there bible to suit there theological premises was just all made up despite all the evidence? I guess it's a right wing of Christendom Conspiracy. How dare you Christendom!!!

lol...

 

[Nada]

Psa 118:8-9 (ESVST) 8 It is better to take refuge in the Lord than to trust in man. 9 It is better to take refuge in the Lord than to trust in princes.

Psa 146:3 (ESVST) 3 Put not your trust in princes, in a son of man, in whom there is no salvation.

Jer 17:5 (ESVST) 5 Thus says the Lord: "Cursed is the man who trusts in man and makes flesh his strength,



*** w93 9/15 p. 22 They Compassionately Shepherd the Little Sheep ***
But if we were to draw away from Jehovah’s organization, there would be no place else to go for salvation and true joy. (Compare John 6:66-69.)


*** w09 2/15 p. 24 par. 3 They “Keep Following the Lamb” ***
There are many reasons why the slave class deserves our trust


*** w09 2/15 p. 27 par. 12 They “Keep Following the Lamb” ***
The slave thus deserves our complete trust.


*** w04 9/1 p. 17 par. 18 Beware of “the Voice of Strangers” ***
He teaches us to make disciples and to trust “the faithful and discreet slave.”


*** w09 2/15 p. 24 par. 3 They “Keep Following the Lamb” ***
There are many reasons why the slave class deserves our trust. Two outstanding reasons are: (1) Jehovah trusts the slave class. (2) Jesus also trusts the slave. Let us examine the evidence that both Jehovah God and Jesus Christ have complete confidence in the faithful and discreet slave.

Who's right, the Bible or the slave? Who do you put your trust in?

God.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Correction,they teach exactly what is taught in the holy scriptures.They do thorough studies.An accurate knowledge of the truth.What is misunderstood by many,such as yourself,is all based on self interpretations and misconceptions, based on traditional thinking.Man made doctrines.None of which has any biblical backing whatsoever.

Do you not know anything about the JW's teachings?? Let me shine some light (of truth) and then we'll talk.


John 14:26 (ESVST) 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

*** w81 2/15 p. 19 Do We Need Help to Understand the Bible? ***
Rather, the record that the “faithful and discreet slave” organization has made for the past more than 100 years forces us to the conclusion that Peter expressed when Jesus asked if his apostles also wanted to leave him, namely, “Whom shall we go away to?” (John 6:66-69) No question about it. We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the “faithful and discreet slave” organization.



John 16:23-24 (ESVST) . Truly, truly, I say to you, whatever you ask of the Father in my name, he will give it to you. 24 Until now you have asked nothing in my name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full.

*** w93 9/15 p. 22 They Compassionately Shepherd the Little Sheep ***
But if we were to draw away from Jehovah’s organization, there would be no place else to go for salvation and true joy. (Compare John 6:66-69.) (with their comparison, are they not making themselves equal to Jesus?)



John 14:6 (ESVST) 6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

*** w13 7/15 p. 20 par. 2 “Who Really Is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?” ***
That faithful slave is the channel through which Jesus is feeding his true followers in this time of the end. It is vital that we recognize the faithful slave. Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel.—Matt. 4:4; John 17:3. (making themselves equal with Jesus again)



Luke 11:13 (ESVST) 13 If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!"

*** w73 7/1 p. 402 par. 4 Praise Jehovah with His People ***
4 Consider, too, the fact that Jehovah’s organization alone, in all the earth, is directed by God’s holy spirit or active force.


1Ti 2:4-6 (ESVST) 5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all (FOR ALL, not just 144,000)


*** ws chap. 1 p. 10 par. 16 The Desire for Peace and Security Worldwide ***
Jesus Christ, is not the Mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind. He is the Mediator between his heavenly Father, Jehovah God, and the nation of spiritual Israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members.

I can go on, and on, and on!

 

[Nada]

Do you not know anything about the JW's teachings?? Let me shine some light (of truth) and then we'll talk.


John 14:26 (ESVST) 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

*** w81 2/15 p. 19 Do We Need Help to Understand the Bible? ***
Rather, the record that the “faithful and discreet slave” organization has made for the past more than 100 years forces us to the conclusion that Peter expressed when Jesus asked if his apostles also wanted to leave him, namely, “Whom shall we go away to?” (John 6:66-69) No question about it. We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the “faithful and discreet slave” organization.



John 16:23-24 (ESVST) . Truly, truly, I say to you, whatever you ask of the Father in my name, he will give it to you. 24 Until now you have asked nothing in my name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full.

*** w93 9/15 p. 22 They Compassionately Shepherd the Little Sheep ***
But if we were to draw away from Jehovah’s organization, there would be no place else to go for salvation and true joy. (Compare John 6:66-69.) (with their comparison, are they not making themselves equal to Jesus?)



John 14:6 (ESVST) 6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

*** w13 7/15 p. 20 par. 2 “Who Really Is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?” ***
That faithful slave is the channel through which Jesus is feeding his true followers in this time of the end. It is vital that we recognize the faithful slave. Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel.—Matt. 4:4; John 17:3. (making themselves equal with Jesus again)



Luke 11:13 (ESVST) 13 If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!"

*** w73 7/1 p. 402 par. 4 Praise Jehovah with His People ***
4 Consider, too, the fact that Jehovah’s organization alone, in all the earth, is directed by God’s holy spirit or active force.


1Ti 2:4-6 (ESVST) 5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all (FOR ALL, not just 144,000)


*** ws chap. 1 p. 10 par. 16 The Desire for Peace and Security Worldwide ***
Jesus Christ, is not the Mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind. He is the Mediator between his heavenly Father, Jehovah God, and the nation of spiritual Israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members.

I can go on, and on, and on!

I'm sure you can.Lol... From what I have seen..., anything you claim to be light,is actually darkness.