PureX
Veteran Member
He and the party picked his successor 4 years ago in the manner that this has always been done. She has always been his next-in-line.
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Lawyer sends warning to GOP election officials with plans to refuse results
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What happens if a candidate becomes unable to run a few weeks before an election? Do you cancel it and keep the old president? Nope, Constitution says "no." Life, as you have perhaps heard, happens, and we poor human saps just have to find a way to deal with it.Didn't the coronation of Harris, subvert the Democratic primary vote of Biden? Over 14,000,000 votes were cancelled. Now we know who is the real threat to Democracy and who will try to further cheat Democracy. The DNC projects what it does, and lies to blame others. Their base appear to see through a carnival trick mirror, and see themselves, but think it is Trump; Trump derangement syndrome. Your propaganda people did this to you. Below is your mind on Trump Derangement Syndrome. There is some sunny side and some scrambled.
And by the way, do you not find it interesting that the only people complaining about how this change in candidate for the Democrats are Republican supporters? All the Democrats seem fine with it -- quite enthusiastic, actually. So you guys aren't complaining about democracy or fairness -- you're complaining because you think it upsets your chance of winning.
Get over it. It's fair, it's all according to the rules, and it has the complete buy-in of the party directly concerned.
Tomef
Well-Known Member
This is so bizarre. You actually know that the Prez retiring due to poor health, and his VP being nominated by the party for the role is an entirely normal thing. The same process is used across the developed world for the same contingency. The GOP signed up to the same process; if the situation were reversed, you’d be getting worked up about Democrats criticising it. You genuinely don’t realise how absurd it is, as an adult, to behave like that?
Altfish
Veteran Member
To be fair, whoever the President is, they are normally just a figurehead. (Maybe not in Trump's case!) The POTUS sets out his/her agenda then ...
It is the POTUS's appointees and their staff that do the work. Biden is struggling with the thought process under pressure but in his own time will be fine.
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
in 2020 81 million voted for Biden yet that didn't stop Trump from trying everything to subvert the election. Why have an election if it doesn't matter?
Uh, what?Didn't the coronation of Harris, subvert the Democratic primary vote of Biden? Over 14,000,000 votes were cancelled. Now we know who is the real threat to Democracy and who will try to further cheat Democracy. The DNC projects what it does, and lies to blame others. Their base appear to see through a carnival trick mirror, and see themselves, but think it is Trump; Trump derangement syndrome. Your propaganda people did this to you. Below is your mind on Trump Derangement Syndrome. There is some sunny side and some scrambled.
What on Earth are you talking about?
Harris wasn't coronated.
And no, nothing was subverted. Those voters are still free to vote for Biden for president (write-in), but I can't imagine anybody doing that. Harris is a superstar that has the overwhelming and enthusiastic support from the left and moderates. Virtually every former Biden supporter will be voting for Harris as well as a large swather of so-called double haters - people that didn't want to vote for Biden or Trump. These are the people now registering to vote, making first time political contributions to her campaign, volunteering in record numbers, and responsible for Harris' surge in the polls relative to how Biden was polling. The people have spoken. Harris will be the candidate by acclamation.
As I told another poster, what the Democrats do is of no concern to MAGA. They can pick their candidate by any legal means they prefer, and the Democrats will do the same and tell the right who they're running against Trump.
Your "concern" for American democracy would be welcome were it sincere, but not credible coming from a Trump supporter. It's just a talking point circulating now that will go nowhere and will cost Harris no votes nor garner any for Trump.
It's understandable why MAGA is in a snit now like swarming wasps in a nest that's just been kicked. MAGA thought it had this one in the bag, and then suddenly, a complete apocalypse for Trump and MAGA. Some on the right called it a coup, and in a sense, they were right, but not the way they mean. The coup was against Trump's candidacy and hopes for reelection.
Trump has zero talking points now. Harris is hammering MAGA regarding the border. Trump and the media hammered that old and mentally slipping were bad when they were talking about Biden, and now Harris is using that against him, as when she calls him the nearly eighty-year-old who gets confused and points out that she's the former prosecutor and he's the former and future defendant and present convicted felon.
Look at how impotent his attacks are. He's quibbling over who called Harris a border czar (he's wrong), insulting her laugh, and making racist comments about her ancestry. And as we've seen on this thread already, they've got several indoctrinated MAGA complaining about Biden's primary votes, which as I alluded will have zero traction as well, and he wants sympathy for a scratch on his ear, which also isn't happening outside the ranks of MAGA.
If this keeps up - and it's been a metaphoric pummeling and bloodbath for Trump so far with no sign yet that Trump has any defense or offense at all - we can expect the difference between Harris' and Trump's to increase as it has been since she announced her candidacy. She now has about a 1% lead over Trump when the various regional polls are combined which Biden never had and still in ascension. It is estimated that if this becomes a 3% lead, Trump will be forced to debate, which will be another bloodbath. She's everything he's not - experienced, brilliant, articulate, young, and charismatic.
They say that Democrats need a 5% lead to expect to win the electoral vote, and a 7% lead indicates a landslide. Let's see where her momentum stops.
Remember how incensed Trump was at Obama just for being a an articulate, charismatic, beloved black man in the White House? Now, he has an even more charismatic opponent as or more beloved who is threatening to defeat him personally, and who is a woman who calls him old, feeble, and criminal.
Add in that such a defeat eliminates his ability to protect himself from prosecution and makes him dependent on a Supreme Court ruling that will delay his convictions as he claims that his every crime he's been indicted for was an official act, but hopefully, appeals court judges or grand juries will decide such things appropriately and then he will go to trial again.
Imagine the rage and the powerful but unfulfillable urge for vengeance.
You don't, but I and millions of others that you label deranged do.
And that fact that you can't tell your enemies from your friends (assuming you have any interest in America's future as a democracy or value its Constitution and founding principles including free and fair elections, the peaceful transfer of power, egalitarianism, church-state separation and the rule of law, which seems unlikely for any Trump supporter) and apparently intend to vote for Trump makes you and everybody else who is willing to do that part of that threat to democracy.
You are enabling an enemy of the Constitution. He's told you what he intends to do. You've possibly heard of Project 2025 and his lies trying to distance himself from it. You've heard him promise to end elections. He told you he wants to be a dictator. If that's OK with you, then you're not a friend of America's, and if you don't believe Trump when he tells you what he intends to do to America, you aren't doing your part to be an informed citizen and defender of the Constitution.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Didn't the coronation of Harris, subvert the Democratic primary vote of Biden? Over 14,000,000 votes were cancelled. Now we know who is the real threat to Democracy and who will try to further cheat Democracy. The DNC projects what it does, and lies to blame others. Their base appear to see through a carnival trick mirror, and see themselves, but think it is Trump; Trump derangement syndrome. Your propaganda people did this to you. Below is your mind on Trump Derangement Syndrome. There is some sunny side and some scrambled.
LOL
You don't get it, 14 million democrats voted delegates to a convention for a man to beat trump and project2025 and the whole MAGA coalition , He did what was best for the cause and deferred to Kamala Harris and as you have seen, the democratic party, Democrats, and even independents are in agreement and nothing nefarious, let alone illegal went on. 300 million $ in a week in donations with 170,000 first time donors says this was a good decision on the part of Biden for the good of the country.
The only people who seem to think this is a bad thing are mindless Trump supporters who seem to have no understanding of democracy or any other American traditions.
We are laughing at your total cluelessness.
As for the picture and TDS, look up projection.
Not to mention that we prefer policies like supporting education and a tax structure that doesn't reward only the richest and caring for all people on earth and not destroying the livability in pursuit of some short term goals and bodily autonomy and so on which would make us vote democratic anyway. We are a people of principle, not a cult of personality.
Pogo
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Tomef
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More strangeness: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli..._campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert . It appears Trump is trying to create some phoney situation where by he can claim he offered to debate but was turned down, by unilaterally changing the set date.
Heyo
Veteran Member
You wish. He has two talking points now he's well versed in: racism and misogyny. It's what got him elected in 2016 (at least it didn't hurt him).
Maybe I should rephrase that. Yes, he can make those point to MAGA, but he already has the racist and misogynistic communities. He has nothing to pull voters his way that aren't already with him.
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Pogo
Well-Known Member
A debate that tRump unilaterally sets up to replace the one he priorly agreed to, yeah about what I would expect.
Kamala, call his bluff, the original or nothing and point and laugh at his denials, false statements etc.
I think that Harris should put out a statement saying that she will agree to debate Trump on fox, but on September 17th, or maybe September 24th or something like that. And that she still intends to be at the debate on ABC on September 10th regardless.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
No, it is just a power play on his part to demonstrate his ability to change/set the rules.
He agreed, to the original date and set up. She needs to call his bluff and tell him she will not accommodate him at his whim.
Otherwise she is just giving in to him as the weak female he wishes to portray her to his mysogynistic minions.l
Absolutely NOT.
That is what I am saying. She should stand firm on the September 10th ABC debate. Give no ground on that.
But by agreeing to debate Trump on Fox on a later date will destroy his talking point.
If she just refuses to debate on Fox ever, what is going to happen is that Trump will show up on Fox on September 4th and stand next to an empty podium, and then Harris will show up at ABC and stand next to an empty podium, and the media will treat that like at tie.
But if Harris is standing next to an empty podium on September 10th, and then goes to debate Trump on Fox September 17 (or whatever date) Trump will still look like a coward.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Rereading is fundamental when something peeves you.
I misunderstood your consideration of a second debate in addition as change from an only. That said, the offer needs to be made if it is with terms that favor Harris and only do it under her terms, especially if it is on Fox, otherwise one should be enough.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The way he wants immunity to assassinate political rivals, turn America into a police state and the way he has said he wants to be a dictator it is impossible to vote for Trump to defend democracy.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Except she has done that and there's about as much evidence to show she has always embraced being black as there is showing evolution is true.