Leaving the EU has been a disaster for the UK

[Nakosis]

Look back at my posts pre-June 2016, what has happened is exactly what the Remainers (and therefore I) predicted. Poor man of Europe once more.

Ok, I guess some see these things as beneficial.
Me, not being affected by it one way or another don't have a personal opinion on it.
I can find people praising it and those saying it was the worst thing ever.

I'd suppose you'd have to depend on how if affected you directly.

 

[Nakosis]

Doesn't work that way when government are bare faced lying. I've lost friends because they would not accept the obvious and instead whent with brexit. And then turned nasty after the vote.

Yes, people are mostly ruled by emotions than logic. They end up relying on how they feel about things.
I really have no feelings about it myself. I just hear from folks on both sides. Some saying how great things are now.
It is difficult to have any real opinion on what doesn't affect you.

I suppose my question would be how it affected you personally.

 

[Heyo]

Just as half the US electorate easily convinced the other half not to vote for Trump in 2016, you mean?

That would have been much easier if not voting for Trump wouldn't have meant to vote for Clinton.

 

[Altfish]

Ok, I guess some see these things as beneficial.
Me, not being affected by it one way or another don't have a personal opinion on it.
I can find people praising it and those saying it was the worst thing ever.

I'd suppose you'd have to depend on how if affected you directly.

I can find people saying the Earth is flat, some people's thoughts and opinions are not as valid as others.

 

[ChristineM]

I suppose my question would be how it affected you personally.

I live in France so it hardly effects me at all*, unless... I do have family and friends in the UK, in fact i was there last week for a visit.

I notice airport customs is more time consuming and stringent. Gaps on supermarket shelves where normally european goods would be displayed, higher incidence of racism, rocketing inflation, and weak pound*.

Complete head in the sand denial and lies by the government, example the UK is currently going through a tomato (and other summer veg/fruit) shortage. The UK government says it is because of bad weather in Spain. The rest of Europe see no such shortage. As it turns out the problem is bureaucratic, imposed by UK customs.

* The biggest problem we notice us a weak pound which effects brits living abroad if their income derives from Britain and must be exchanged for eurosas ours does. Brexit is costing us between €500 and €800 per month.

 

[Estro Felino]

Actually Britain has always had a very liberistic and liberal vocation.
A vocation that is probably incompatible with a spiritual union that founds itself upon solidarity and cooperation.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Actually Britain has always had a very liberistic and liberal vocation.
A vocation that is probably incompatible with a spiritual union that founds itself upon solidarity and cooperation.

You mean we've always been awkward and a bit odd? That's true I think and probably comes from living on an island.

 

[ChristineM]

Actually Britain has always had a very liberistic and liberal vocation.
A vocation that is probably incompatible with a spiritual union that founds itself upon solidarity and cooperation.

The British empire was/is a long way from a liberal institution.

 

[Estro Felino]

You mean we've always been awkward and a bit odd? That's true I think and probably comes from living on an island.

Absolutely no. We are a peninsula, it's like we were an island too, or sort of.
I meant that Adam Smith's philosophy has always played a preponderant role. Autonomy and independence are necessary conditions for liberism to be implemented.
So the EU...with all its regulations and treaty was just too suffocating.

 

[ChristineM]

Brexit to blame for rising inflation, says former Bank of England governor​

Mark Carney says Bank’s negative predictions about consequences of leaving EU ‘proven to be the case’


Brexit to blame for rising inflation, says former Bank of England governor

 

[Yerda]

Brexit to blame for rising inflation, says former Bank of England governor​

Mark Carney says Bank’s negative predictions about consequences of leaving EU ‘proven to be the case’


Brexit to blame for rising inflation, says former Bank of England governor

Mark Carney might well be right but it is awfy convenient to have a brexit to blame every calamity on. I believe the EU is also experiencing inflation at the minute though I don't doubt it possible brexit is adding to UK problems.

Absolutely no. We are a peninsula, it's like we were an island too, or sort of.
I meant that Adam Smith's philosophy has always played a preponderant role. Autonomy and independence are necessary conditions for liberism to be implemented.
So the EU...with all its regulations and treaty was just too suffocating.

I certainly didn't feel suffocated by the opportunity to move around the EU freely, and I don't think the companies trading with the continent found it so. It seems to be uncontroversial at the stage that the EU was a net benefit to the people of the UK. It wasn't perfect but it widened our possibilities.

 

[ChristineM]

Mark Carney might well be right but it is awfy convenient to have a brexit to blame every calamity on. I believe the EU is also experiencing inflation at the minute though I don't doubt it possible brexit is adding to UK problems.

Of course it's convenient to blame the cause (or at least partial cause)

The EU is experiencing inflation, much caused by the Ukraine/Russia war and shortage of fuel & gas. But it does not seem to compare with that being experienced by the UK.

However over the last few weeks the price of fuel has dropped considerably, say a 25% reduction in fuel at the pump which im glad to say is rippling through to the shelves.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What are the tangible consequences of leaving the EU?

Regaining a country's sovereignty and independence?

I agree with @Altfish .

 

[Estro Felino]

It wasn't perfect but it widened our possibilities.

Or maybe it was a too narrow jacket for Britain.
Good choice.

 

[Heyo]

Regaining a country's sovereignty and independence?

Which is a value in itself but it has it's price. GB joined the EU for monetary benefits in exchange for sovereignty. Now they reversed that decision. But I suspect that many "leave" voters had no idea how high the price would be.

 

[Flankerl]

Regaining a country's sovereignty and independence?

It would've been impossible for the UK to leave the EU if it hadn't been a sovereign independent country.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It would've been impossible for the UK to leave the EU if it hadn't been a sovereign independent country.

If that was the case, then it's a moot issue then with no argument.

 

[Rival]

Brexit is also responsible for the EU's recession, New Zealand's recession, the recent collapse of 3 US banks and its recession, the recession in Canada, the Ukraine-Russia war and the collapse of the South African state. It's weird this Brexit. Probably responsible for the Turkish earthquakes too.

 

[ChristineM]

Brexit is also responsible for the EU's recession, New Zealand's recession, the recent collapse of 3 US banks and its recession, the recession in Canada, the Ukraine-Russia war and the collapse of the South African state. It's weird this Brexit.

Is it?

 

[Flankerl]

If that was the case, then it's a moot issue then with no argument.

So the UK rebelled against the EU?
Were there any battles?