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Legal Gun Ownership Poll

Do you legally own a gun and what is your political stance?

  • I legally own at least one firearm and am a Conservative

    Votes: 6 10.9%
  • I legally own at least one firemarm and am a Liberal

    Votes: 9 16.4%
  • No firearms and am liberal

    Votes: 10 18.2%
  • No firearms and am conservative

    Votes: 7 12.7%
  • No party affiliation and own at least one firearm

    Votes: 15 27.3%
  • No party affiliation and no firearms

    Votes: 8 14.5%

  • Total voters
    55

McBell

Unbound
If guns were treated like cars, you would have:

  1. - licenses for every firearm owner
  2. - licenses for every firearm
  3. - mandated safety measures that firearm manufacturers would be required to incorporate into their designs
  4. - a government firearm registry
  5. - periodic government inspections of firearms
  6. - mandatory firearm insurance
  7. - the police would literally hide in bushes watching firearm operators, looking for violations
  1. I can agree to the firearm license
  2. No idea where you have to get a car license. Most I have to do with my car is get a registration and insurance.
  3. already exist
  4. what government do you register your car with? I have no such requirements for mine.
  5. dont have to get my car inspected. at all. ever
  6. agreed
  7. police would be wasting their time. most owners of firearms have no incidents at all.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
  1. I can agree to the firearm license
  2. No idea where you have to get a car license. Most I have to do with my car is get a registration and insurance.
  3. already exist
  4. what government do you register your car with? I have no such requirements for mine.
  5. dont have to get my car inspected. at all. ever
  6. agreed
  7. police would be wasting their time. most owners of firearms have no incidents at all.
2. I'm talking about your registration and annual sticker.
4. I registered my car with the Province of Ontario. In the US, you register your car with the state. Remember that registration you mentioned in 2?
5. This varies from state to state. Some have annual inspections. Some only have emissions checks. Here in Ontario, we have emissions checks every 2 years and safety inspections whenever the car is sold.

The internet tells me that 19 states and DC require regular safety inspections, and that 30 states and DC require regular emissions inspections.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
We do not have a "gun fetish" here in the States. What we have are people that enjoy owing firearms. The problem could be yours don't you think?
For the tens of millions of Americans who own guns, their gun fetish is so overpowering and irrational that it doesn't even matter to them that a gun in the home greatly increases the risk--for the gun-owner, family members and acquaintances--of dying from a gun shot: http://www.bradycampaign.org/risks-of-having-a-gun-in-the-home This increased risk persists regardless of storage practice, type of gun or number of guns in the home: http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/10/929.full

Thus, the word “fetish” is actually too flattering to describe the relationship of American gun-owners to their guns. The reality is much more sociopathic.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
i have read.....
more people die from drowning
we should fill in all the swimming pools

more people die from bicycle accidents.....
we should crush all bicycles
Cite your sources.

64,000 people die each year in car accidents.....
we should walk everywhere we go
Cars are normally used quite safely, and have a non-injurious purpose. It's very rare for a sober person driving to a car to injure or kill someone.
 

McBell

Unbound
For the tens of millions of Americans who own guns, their gun fetish is so overpowering and irrational that it doesn't even matter to them that a gun in the home greatly increases the risk--for the gun-owner, family members and acquaintances--of dying from a gun shot: http://www.bradycampaign.org/risks-of-having-a-gun-in-the-home This increased risk persists regardless of storage practice, type of gun or number of guns in the home: http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/10/929.full

Thus, the word “fetish” is actually too flattering to describe the relationship of American gun-owners to their guns. The reality is much more sociopathic.
Tens of millions of Americans who own guns.
How many guns per american would you say?
Forget it.
We will just go with your tens of millions.
From the CDC:
All firearm deaths
  • Number of deaths: 33,736
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm

Let us round that number up to 35,000.
This is with tens of millions of Americans who own at least one gun.

I fail to see this "so over powering and irrational" you proclaim.
In fact, I would say you are attempting to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I fail to see this "so over powering and irrational" you proclaim.
The irrationality of owning a gun is that there are no benefits to gun-ownership--it only increases the gun-owner's, family members' and acquaintances' risk of accidental injury, homicide or suicide due to being shot.
 

McBell

Unbound
The irrationality of owning a gun is that there are no benefits to gun-ownership--it only increases the gun-owner's, family members' and acquaintances' risk of accidental injury, homicide or suicide due to being shot.
that you do not accept them does not magically make the benefits go away.
That you are so bold with your false information shows your irrationality towards guns.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
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idav

Being
Premium Member
that you do not accept them does not magically make the benefits go away.
That you are so bold with your false information shows your irrationality towards guns.
I've been wondering a little about this. I would question insurance that statistically harmed my family more than it helped. There are plenty of reasons to get firearms but protection isn't a great argument unless its being carried around all the time. I have kids so......hold on an intruder.... I gotta get to my safe for a firearm.......01......34....hold on honey I'll be right there......I got this firearm for protection......
 

esmith

Veteran Member
I've been wondering a little about this. I would question insurance that statistically harmed my family more than it helped. There are plenty of reasons to get firearms but protection isn't a great argument unless its being carried around all the time. I have kids so......hold on an intruder.... I gotta get to my safe for a firearm.......01......34....hold on honey I'll be right there......I got this firearm for protection......
Well it depends on where your firearms are located. Nothing says you have to have only one firearm. Now before you make the point. We have no children, no grandchildren, children never visit our home.
 

McBell

Unbound
I've been wondering a little about this. I would question insurance that statistically harmed my family more than it helped. There are plenty of reasons to get firearms but protection isn't a great argument unless its being carried around all the time. I have kids so......hold on an intruder.... I gotta get to my safe for a firearm.......01......34....hold on honey I'll be right there......I got this firearm for protection......
I can get my fire arm out of the safe and ready to fire in less than two seconds from the time I get to the safe.
While in the gun safe, my children are unable to gain access to the firearms.
 

McBell

Unbound
Well it depends on where your firearms are located. Nothing says you have to have only one firearm. Now before you make the point. We have no children, no grandchildren, children never visit our home.
I have children (no grand children yet), nieces and nephews in my home all the time and I am not worried about the firearms in the safes.
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
I bring this up because for some years I have wondered what would happen if stuff hit the fan and I needed something.
If you buy a gun, which I just did, please get some training on it as well as do some research and don't forget to practice. Owning a firearm might be a 'right', but it's an even bigger responsibility. I can't believe how much my aim has improved after reading a single book on marksmanship. I am considering adding a rifle as well as the pistol I already own.
 
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