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Let’s talk about the Bible
- Thread starter Vee
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@djhwoodwerks and the Jehovah's Witnesses cannot be convinced of anything other than what they believe to be true. I was JW. You know that! I did not LEAN on what they taught me. I am not LEANING on what people say the Bible means.
Yes. I trust him and I think he is with me just like he promised he would be.
djhwoodwerks
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I am not resting on it! It is resting. I can see it resting! OMG. I should post it again? Should I?
djhwoodwerks
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No, you're LEANING on what you UNDERSTAND the Bible to be saying. You are LEANING on your own understanding, which you claim the Bible warns against, "DO NOT"!
Awesome! Doesn't He give you understanding?
djhwoodwerks
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What are you "resting on" to believe that there are mistakes in the Bible?
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Awesome! Doesn't He give you understanding?[/QUOTE]
Exactly! Understanding is a good thing. It is written that ALL good things are from God.
So, therefore "own" understanding isn't even real.
All right understanding is from God. There is no own understanding. Understanding is not mine to own. It is a gift. And for each scripture, it must come. It doesn't come from me.
Awesome! Doesn't He give you understanding?[/QUOTE]
Exactly! Understanding is a good thing. It is written that ALL good things are from God.
So, therefore "own" understanding isn't even real.
All right understanding is from God. There is no own understanding. Understanding is not mine to own. It is a gift. And for each scripture, it must come. It doesn't come from me.
To know there are mistakes in it is to give up resting. You should know that!
djhwoodwerks
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You can play the word game, like a good jw does, but it doesn't matter what you call it, "lean on", "rest on", "trust in", "rely on", pick one, you are doing it because you are on here claiming you know what is right!
I don't think I am claiming that I know what is right. You, though, seem to be doing that. I am claiming that I know what is wrong and I am trying explanations for it.
It is WRONG saying that a person should not lean on his own understanding because believing so can and DOES (because we can SEE IT) foster trusting in the understanding of The Other People which is perfectly ridiculous! All the people who communicate their belief of righteousness ARE LEANING ON THEIR OWN UNDERSTANDING and people are leaning on theirs.
I am of the mind that at the very least God's Word should not teach ridiculousness!
djhwoodwerks
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So, if JESUS gives you the "gift" of understanding, you're not to, lean on, trust in, rely on or rest on that understanding, because when Jesus GIVES you understanding, then it's yours, right? Or is Jesus just understanding for you thru you?
And how do you know that's true?
All that was written is written by people who were leaning on their own understanding.
Now, you all are leaning on those people's own understanding.
Just because it is once removed does not make it right.
Now, you all are leaning on those people's own understanding.
Just because it is once removed does not make it right.
I am not the one arguing. I am procrastinating my housework.
I don't. But, I believe nothing is possible without first GOD. I believe God is GOOD. Goodness and understanding are inventions OF GOD.
I can't answer that. Each understanding I perceive as a gift. The one gift is adoption. I am a born again.
Understanding is of the mind. The brain is flesh. I do not trust in flesh.
Yes, but I am aware that it is not mine to keep safe. I can't keep it safe.
That is a wonderful sentence! I shall think about for and through.
djhwoodwerks
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Your witness mentality is showing again sw!
You're not claiming you know what is right, you're just claiming you know what is wrong? And then giving "explanations" of why "you're right" and the Bible is wrong, correct?
djhwoodwerks
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Yes, that is correct. It works best when it is right, imo.
I don't. Do you?
@djhwoodwerks That God made the writing of the Bible possible does not mean that God wrote it.