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Let’s try a serious discussion about “wokeism”.

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Wokeism

What is it? Is it good? Is it bad? What do you think of it? Should it be taught? Should it be banned? What else do you want to say or ask about it?

Go.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Wokeism is the cult of the great Chinese food. You become especially woke after eating spicy Chinese food and getting overwhelmed by the spicy feeling.

Stay wok!

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ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Like the term 'hippy' it has gone from good to bad to neutral implications with the march of time. I generally don't use it anymore because it's such a loaded word that it distracts to productive conversations just to throw the usual buzzwords and phrases back and forth.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Sorry, I can't be entirely serious because I just saw this image and then this thread:

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ChatGPT had this to say about the definition of "woke" - and the difference about whether or not it's a positive state or note is clearl:

The term "woke" is a slang word that emerged in the early 2010s, particularly within Black American English. It refers to an individual's awareness of social and political issues, particularly those related to systemic injustice and inequality. Being "woke" is often associated with a critical consciousness and an active effort to challenge and address social problems, particularly those related to race, gender, sexuality, and other forms of oppression.

The term has since evolved and has been used in various contexts, sometimes being used pejoratively to describe individuals who are seen as excessively politically correct or self-righteous in their activism. However, at its core, being "woke" generally refers to a heightened level of awareness and sensitivity to issues of social justice and equity.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
The term woke has become a hasty generalization of leftism. Convenient for writing off issues anyone on the left, or even outside of the typical binary political system, may bring up. It's become a straw man for oppositional critics.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Advocating for equal rights is good.
Going about in a way that's sanctimonious, vindictive, hypocritical, and curtails liberty is not.

Also, it's nonsensical to consider environmentalism and vegetarianism/veganism to be "woke" positions.

Like "socialism", "woke" has become a lazy slur used by conservatives to refer to anything they either don't like or don't understand. If used in this context, serious discussion is impossible.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
Wokeism

What is it? Is it good? Is it bad? What do you think of it? Should it be taught? Should it be banned? What else do you want to say or ask about it?

Go.
At this point, anything that critiques or even questions the systemic engrained unconscious cultural nomos can be described as "woke," as it is bringing the unconscious programming into consciousness. It's scary to acknowledge that we have unconscious programming, much less to face that unconscious programming. Any questioning of this unconscious programming would trigger defense mechanisms as making it conscious would be seen as a threat and a loss of its power.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
ChatGPT had this to say about the definition of "woke" - and the difference about whether or not it's a positive state or note is clearl:

The term "woke" is a slang word that emerged in the early 2010s, particularly within Black American English. It refers to an individual's awareness of social and political issues, particularly those related to systemic injustice and inequality. Being "woke" is often associated with a critical consciousness and an active effort to challenge and address social problems, particularly those related to race, gender, sexuality, and other forms of oppression.

The term has since evolved and has been used in various contexts, sometimes being used pejoratively to describe individuals who are seen as excessively politically correct or self-righteous in their activism. However, at its core, being "woke" generally refers to a heightened level of awareness and sensitivity to issues of social justice and equity.
So far the most intelligent post in this thread is artificially intelligent.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
ChatGPT had this to say about the definition of "woke" - and the difference about whether or not it's a positive state or note is clearl:

The term "woke" is a slang word that emerged in the early 2010s, particularly within Black American English. It refers to an individual's awareness of social and political issues, particularly those related to systemic injustice and inequality. Being "woke" is often associated with a critical consciousness and an active effort to challenge and address social problems, particularly those related to race, gender, sexuality, and other forms of oppression.

The term has since evolved and has been used in various contexts, sometimes being used pejoratively to describe individuals who are seen as excessively politically correct or self-righteous in their activism. However, at its core, being "woke" generally refers to a heightened level of awareness and sensitivity to issues of social justice and equity.
Thanks so much for this as I didn't know it went back that far and primarily within the black community.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Wokeism

What is it? Is it good? Is it bad? What do you think of it? Should it be taught? Should it be banned? What else do you want to say or ask about it?

Go.

Tokeism? Is that for people who like to take a toke now and again?

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Oh wait..."wokeism." Nevermind.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Wokeism

What is it? Is it good? Is it bad? What do you think of it? Should it be taught? Should it be banned? What else do you want to say or ask about it?

Go.

It has become a vague term with no definite meaning. Depending on who you ask or who uses it, it could refer to veganism, support for LGBT rights, or support for gender equality. It could also refer to attitudes perceived to be virtue-signaling or self-righteous, such as overgeneralizations about other groups, bad-faith arguments, and excessive political correctness.

I don't use the term. When it has any practical utility, there's always a more precise and less loaded alternative. When it is used to demonize others who support specific causes, it is a weaponized, ideologically charged term that has no place in any serious, productive discussion.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
As i see it.

Wokeness is a form of extremism. The attempts to force views and perspectives on other people who don't share the same thing.

The key word being , "force".
 
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