Let's not talk about the Big Bang

[Ben Dhyan]

And there you go again. When you make a claim like that you are the one taking on the burden of proof. Please note that I was not that foolish. I try to avoid making claims that I cannot support.

It is not a claim, it is common sense, existence can not come from no-existence. The penny will drop one day, you have it in you to understand.

 

[Subduction Zone]

They are self explanatory, existence and no-existence.

Ah, but time is my specialty, what don't you understand about it?

No. They are not That is not good enough. You made the claims you need to support them.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It is not a claim, it is common sense, existence can not come from no-existence. The penny will drop one day, you have it in you to understand.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

No. They are not That is not good enough. You made the claims you need to support them.

First, it is BBT that makes the claim that existence came from no-existence, but they provide no proof. I am drawing your attention to it.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

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I'm still here, is that projecting or hoping on your part?

 

[Subduction Zone]

First, it is BBT that makes the claim that existence came from no-existence, but they provide no proof. I am drawing your attention to it.

No, that is your strawman. And even if it did, when you make a claim to the contrary it is up to you to support it. Even if the supporters of the Big Bang did believe that the universe came from nothing it appears that they would have more evidence than you do. But then you told us that you do not understand the concept of evidence.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'm still here, is that projecting or hoping on your part?

Oh no, you are running at high speed. You have not even begun to support your claims when you need to. That is running away.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

No, that is your strawman. And even if it did, when you make a claim to the contrary it is up to you to support it. Even if the supporters of the Big Bang did believe that the universe came from nothing it appears that they would have more evidence than you do. But then you told us that you do not understand the concept of evidence.

Now you are rambling and incoherent, take a rest please.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Oh no, you are running at high speed. You have not even begun to support your claims when you need to. That is running away.

This is getting childish!

 

[John53]

First, it is BBT that makes the claim that existence came from no-existence, but they provide no proof. I am drawing your attention to it.

I don't know much about BBT, can you point me to an article that claims something came from nothing?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

I don't know much about BBT, can you point me to an article that claims something came from nothing?

You are late to the party, you can read the thread for yourself. Where do you think existence came from?

 

[Subduction Zone]

This is getting childish!

You have been acting childishly for quite some time. It is simple, your claim. your burden of proof. I did not make any positive aassertions about the start of the universe. I know a bit more than you do so I know what I do not know. You only have believe and you appear to have conflated that with knowledge, but your actions here keep telling us that all you have is irrational belief.

 

[John53]

You are late to the party, you can read the thread for yourself. Where do you think existence came from?

I've been reading it since day one and haven't seen anything posted to show how BBT claims something came from nothing. You keep saying it does so I'm assuming you have the information. I read about BBT and it fries my brain so some help from you would be good.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Now you are rambling and incoherent, take a rest please.

Nope. at best that rather simple post was beyond your understanding. At worst you were lying. I am going to assume that it was beyond your understanding. What part didn't you understand?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I've been reading it since day one and haven't seen anything posted to show how BBT claims something came from nothing. You keep saying it does so I'm assuming you have the information. I read about BBT and it fries my brain so some help from you would be good.

Unfortunately he misinterpreted some of Polymaths posts. I corrected him shunyadragon corrected him, gnostic corrected him, and Polymath corrected him. He loves his strawman too much to listen.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

You have been acting childishly for quite some time. It is simple, your claim. your burden of proof. I did not make any positive aassertions about the start of the universe. I know a bit more than you do so I know what I do not know. You only have believe and you appear to have conflated that with knowledge, but your actions here keep telling us that all you have is irrational belief.

Stop changing the subject, if you've got evidence of existence from no-existence, then provide it, but this incessant whining is so pathetic, are you a man or a mouse.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

I've been reading it since day one and haven't seen anything posted to show how BBT claims something came from nothing. You keep saying it does so I'm assuming you have the information. I read about BBT and it fries my brain so some help from you would be good.

You didn't say where you thought existence came from!

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Nope. at best that rather simple post was beyond your understanding. At worst you were lying. I am going to assume that it was beyond your understanding. What part didn't you understand?

Look, you don't like truth I get it, let it go.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Stop changing the subject, if you've got evidence of existence from no-existence, then provide it, but this incessant whining is so pathetic, are you a man or a mouse.

You need to drop the strawman argument. No one can answer your question properly as asked, Here is an example of what you are demanding. It is not a serious accustion:

"Answer yes or no, have you quit beating your wife yet?"

 

[Subduction Zone]

You didn't say where you thought existence came from!

He does not have to. In fact since you are on corrections only due to your behavior no one needs to. No one has made that claim. You have merely misinterpreted what was said.