Let's see if we can figure this out about the old Piltdown Man

[tas8831]

You stereotyped, which is at best a half truth and you refuse to see the other side also is biased.

I provided specific examples - that is not stereotyping.

You are just dodging, as usual.

Remember - when you copy-paste someone else's work, exponential notation does not translate.

 

[tas8831]

You stereotyped, which is at best a half truth and you refuse to see the other side also is biased.

Nice dodge.
Typical.

 

[tas8831]

So what would make you want me to abandon faith?

I don't care about your faith. I don't want you to do anything. I was responding to your trivially simpleminded nonsense about just being openminded and the Jesus will roll right in.

Have you thought about your motivation here?
Misery loves company perhaps?

Projecting again?

Many of the Christians I know are the most miserable people I have ever encountered - especially the Fox-watching Trump-cult types. They HATE everyone that is not exactly as ignorant and hateful as they are.

No, my motivation is to expose the lies and disinformation and dishonesty of people that feel the need to attack science and scientists to prop up their flimsy faith. If such folk are evangelical, JW, Catholic, etc., well, so be it. They tend to be the ones most prone to seeing nothing wrong with fibbing for the faith.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Did you not?

No I didn't... Once again you are confused... try to check who is posting what.

 

[Valjean]

No, if you seek after him honestly as I said. With an open heart.

"Open heart" meaning willing to accept without valid evidence, meaning willing to accept something emotionally satisfying without facts or critical analysis?

Don't you think factually correct decisions are more likely to be made with the brain than the heart?

 

[Wildswanderer]

"Open heart" meaning willing to accept without valid evidence, meaning willing to accept something emotionally satisfying without facts or critical analysis?

No it means without bias.
To drop your presuppositions, and read scripture as if you were a child.

 

[Mock Turtle]

No it means without bias.
To drop your presuppositions, and read scripture as if you were a child.

Can you not see why this 'read scripture as if you were a child' could be rather problematic? Given that virtually all children given some particular religious education will accept whatever it is, even if such varies enormously and would contradict what other children are taught. And where such a statement would almost be expected from any religion, given that most religions want converts and adherents rather than critical thinkers. This, to me, is just another indication of religions being from human minds alone rather than from elsewhere.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Mr Piltdown rears his ugly head
here a coupe times a year.

And always, always from a religious evolution denier. I'm beginning to suspect some kind of connection.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

It has a track record of always being accurate, and coming true. 100% of the time. God's word said the earth was round (a sphere) and hung on nothing thousands of years before science discovered it to be true.

Of course, the Bible also says:

1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”
Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...”Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...”Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”

So much for orbiting the sun.

It also says:

Daniel 4:10-11 the king “saw a tree of great height at the centre of the earth...reaching with its top to the sky and visible to the earth's farthest bounds.” If the earth were flat, a sufficiently tall tree would be visible to “the earth's farthest bounds,” but this is impossible on a spherical earth. Likewise, in describing the temptation of Jesus by Satan, Matthew 4:8 says, “Once again, the devil took him to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world [cosmos] in their glory.” Obviously, this would be possible only if the earth were flat. The same is true of Revelation 1:7: “Behold, he is coming with the clouds! Every eye shall see him...”

None of that speaks to a spherical earth.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Well, some believers would say you were never really a Christian then, as many accept the Once saved, always saved doctrine. I don't necessarily believe that's always the case, but it is a real possibility.

And that would be a cop out answer.
And it certainly sounds like you're attempting it here, which of course, doesn't actually answer the question.

 

[Valjean]

No it means without bias.
To drop your presuppositions, and read scripture as if you were a child.

Children are not particularly rational or skilled at critical analysis.