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Let's talk about Hell

Danny Heim

Active Member
I believe I'm in the right spot. I want to talk to Christians about Hell. That is all I wish to talk to you about, though I will not reject to your witnessing at all, besides, that is what I'm doing. Witnessing for the right to evolve. So fire away. But please, I would appreciate it if you could keep this debate to Hell only. Thank you.

It's a question really, one I must ask by making a statement first. Well, a story really. But just to get the idea, Why Hell?

Let's go to Hell for a minute.

I'm Ed and I'm dead; a human on earth who failed to get salvation from Jesus Christ. In the Christian faith one either goes to Heaven or goes to Hell sometime after death. In this case, Ed is going to Hell.

It's Ed's time and God does not see Ed in his book, so Peter throws him into the lake of fire, something like that. I think that is actually pretty much it. Oh except one thing, Ed's there for eternity.

Sot it's hot, actually, Ed is on fire. He has landed on hot rocks and they are scraping his knees and his palms and burning at the same time. In fact his is totally on fire. He is in Hell for sure and he is on literal fire. And it hurts; it is searing pain of boils and burned skin. But he sees that he is not dieing. He is as alive as he was when he was thrown in 40 minutes ago. And he wonders when they will get him, but knows they are never going to come, but he can’t believe it and screams for help.

It's been 124 years. Ed still burns, his pain has never let up for 124 years. His pleas for help still fill the hot flames and brush the flames back into his eyes that burn constantly. He is engulfed in fire. It has now been 84,213 years. Ed screams have grown weird and finally at 700 million years to the day Ed stops screaming for one split second and realizes he is just beginning.

It has now been 41 zillion years times a 1000 zillion years that Ed has burned in Hell. He has another moment and he realizes he may as well have been there for 10 minutes, because this time will repeat again at another 41 zillion times a 1000 zillion years and that will still be just the beginning. And then the beginning starts again....

Get it?
I gotta ask. How’d this idea ever get this far?
 

Beta

Well-Known Member
Dear friend Ed ,
My heart bleeds for you ! Not because you are in an eternal torment but because you have got it all wrong - so wrong.
You have been told a story by an erronious group of people and you have believed it/them. But you have not believed GOD , had you taken the trouble to study his Word of Truth.

There is no eternal torment in hell-fire for man because man is mortal and would quickly burn up (as in any fire) !!! :yes:
 

Danny Heim

Active Member
Dear friend Ed ,
My heart bleeds for you ! Not because you are in an eternal torment but because you have got it all wrong - so wrong.
You have been told a story by an erronious group of people and you have believed it/them. But you have not believed GOD , had you taken the trouble to study his Word of Truth.

There is no eternal torment in hell-fire for man because man is mortal and would quickly burn up (as in any fire) !!! :yes:
Oh well, go on, give me a discription of this Happy Hell, please
 

Thesavorofpan

Is not going to save you.
Dear friend Ed ,
My heart bleeds for you ! Not because you are in an eternal torment but because you have got it all wrong - so wrong.
You have been told a story by an erronious group of people and you have believed it/them. But you have not believed GOD , had you taken the trouble to study his Word of Truth.

There is no eternal torment in hell-fire for man because man is mortal and would quickly burn up (as in any fire) !!! :yes:

Please back this theory up with scripture.
 

Thesavorofpan

Is not going to save you.
I believe I'm in the right spot. I want to talk to Christians about Hell. That is all I wish to talk to you about, though I will not reject to your witnessing at all, besides, that is what I'm doing. Witnessing for the right to evolve. So fire away. But please, I would appreciate it if you could keep this debate to Hell only. Thank you.

It's a question really, one I must ask by making a statement first. Well, a story really. But just to get the idea, Why Hell?

Let's go to Hell for a minute.

I'm Ed and I'm dead; a human on earth who failed to get salvation from Jesus Christ. In the Christian faith one either goes to Heaven or goes to Hell sometime after death. In this case, Ed is going to Hell.

It's Ed's time and God does not see Ed in his book, so Peter throws him into the lake of fire, something like that. I think that is actually pretty much it. Oh except one thing, Ed's there for eternity.

Sot it's hot, actually, Ed is on fire. He has landed on hot rocks and they are scraping his knees and his palms and burning at the same time. In fact his is totally on fire. He is in Hell for sure and he is on literal fire. And it hurts; it is searing pain of boils and burned skin. But he sees that he is not dieing. He is as alive as he was when he was thrown in 40 minutes ago. And he wonders when they will get him, but knows they are never going to come, but he can’t believe it and screams for help.

It's been 124 years. Ed still burns, his pain has never let up for 124 years. His pleas for help still fill the hot flames and brush the flames back into his eyes that burn constantly. He is engulfed in fire. It has now been 84,213 years. Ed screams have grown weird and finally at 700 million years to the day Ed stops screaming for one split second and realizes he is just beginning.

It has now been 41 zillion years times a 1000 zillion years that Ed has burned in Hell. He has another moment and he realizes he may as well have been there for 10 minutes, because this time will repeat again at another 41 zillion times a 1000 zillion years and that will still be just the beginning. And then the beginning starts again....

Get it?
I gotta ask. How’d this idea ever get this far?

Poor Ed, you forgot the second time he would be judge (If he died before the rapture) only to be thrown back in there.
 

blackout

Violet.
Poor Ed, you forgot the second time he would be judge (If he died before the rapture) only to be thrown back in there.

Yeah our buddy Ed would burn forever.

Very cavalier of you.

Your "god" is an evil tyranical ... I can't even find the words...
cruel, heartless, psycopath.

The fact that you are so "a-ok" with this notion of inflicting literally endless amounts
of tortuous pain on ANY individual :(.... is a sad statement of your own psyche.

It is NOT an "ok" concept.

Anyway, it's innane:rolleyes:... regardless of what you (or anyone) believes about it.
 
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Thesavorofpan

Is not going to save you.
Very cavalier of you.

Your "god" is an evil tyranical ... I can't even find the words...
cruel, heartless, psycopath.

The fact that you are so "a-ok" with this notion of inflicting literally endless amounts
of tortuous pain on ANY individual :(.... is a sad statement of your own psyche.

It is NOT an "ok" concept.

Anyway, it's innane:rolleyes:... regardless of what you believe about it.

Hell was not made for man in the first place. Man brought it onto himself to receive that punishments.
 

blackout

Violet.
Hell was not made for man in the first place. Man brought it onto himself to receive that punishments.

People make their own hells RIGHT HERE.

People make life hell for each other ...
right here on this earth.

No need for some grandiose eternal fire scenerio.

anyway if the whole silly notion WERE true...
NOBODY could possibly do ANYTHING
in ONE lifetime deserving of FOREVER AND EVER TORTURE and suffering.

Honestly. Think about it.
 

blackout

Violet.
It would be like...
Punishing your kid by burning him/her with cigarettes
EVERY SINGLE DAY...
for their ENTIRE LIFE SPAN
for some self centered disobediance
they comitted when they were 9 years old.

and YES... it is a fair comparison.
Only forever and ever torture is INFINITELY worse.

At least the abused kid eventually gets to die one day.
 

Thesavorofpan

Is not going to save you.
People make their own hells RIGHT HERE.

People make life hell for each other ...
right here on this earth.

No need for some grandiose eternal fire scenerio.

anyway if the whole silly notion WERE true...
NOBODY could possibly do ANYTHING
in ONE lifetime deserving of FOREVER AND EVER TORTURE and suffering.

Honestly. Think about it.

1. Its whether you make your life here on earth a living hell or not, its still your fault. No use complaining about it.

2. Some people get away with what they do. Its called divine justice get over it.

3. Maybe, maybe not, but I'm not the one who makes the rules, but I bet there are some people who would argue against that statement.
 

blackout

Violet.
1. Its whether you make your life here on earth a living hell or not, its still your fault. No use complaining about it.

You don't think there are truly abusive people on this earth?

Do you think it's the victim's fault?

Yeah. No use complaining when you're lying in bed
with 3rd degree burns from an arsonists house fire either.

Just lay in bed and suck it up.

Who ever said life and death and excruciating pain were fair?
 

Thesavorofpan

Is not going to save you.
You don't think there are truly abusive people on this earth?

Do you think it's the victim's fault?

Yeah. No use complaining when you're lying in bed
with 3rd degree burns from an arsonists house fire either.

Just lay in bed and suck it up.

Who ever said life and death and excruciating pain were fair?

I should have generalized more. It's man's fault that people can make their lifes a living hell or make other people's life a living hell.

Complaining in the bed with the 3rd degree burns still won't make the fact that you was burn go away.

If you don't die from the wounds your eventually going to have to get on with you life.

Yeah life isn't fair, thats just common sense buddy.
 

blackout

Violet.
I should have generalized more. It's man's fault that people can make their lifes a living hell or make other people's life a living hell.

Complaining in the bed with the 3rd degree burns still won't make the fact that you was burn go away.

If you don't die from the wounds your eventually going to have to get on with you life.

Yeah life isn't fair, thats just common sense buddy.


Did you ACTUALLY call me "Buddy"?
 

Beta

Well-Known Member
Please back this theory up with scripture.
I will give you some relevant scriptures from which you can fit together true biblical facts which traditional christianity has failed to teach.
Gen.2v7, man became a living soul and therefore IS a soul.
Ezek.18v4,20, the soul that sins shall die , in other words man is mortal and will die unless he repents.
The final death will be in the lake of fire which was originally prepared for the devil and his angels Mat.25v41 not for man. Unrepentant sinners will be cast into it but obviously will burn up seeing they are physical and mortal. Only sinful spirits shall be eternally punished because they can not die. Sharing the same fire or punishment does not mean man is spirit that would survive death.
Only the repentant, converted man will become spirit and go on into eternal life.
Rev.19v20, 20v10, 21v8 and lastly Mal.4v3.
other religions may teach something different but this is a christian view of it.
 
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Man of Faith

Well-Known Member
When people complain about hell, I wonder what they expect it to be like, or what they want it to be like and for how long? People don't seem to be bothered if a killer gets life in prison which is essentially "forever" in this life.
 
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