LET'S TALK!!!

[Earthtank]

LET'S TALK!!!

No religion. No science. No survey. No research studies. No news reports. No Youtube videos. No politics. No Wikipedia . Nothing. Let’s try and talk to each other with nothing other than what we know from our life, education and experiences. What I mean is this, if I walked up to you and we started talking about any topic, let’s talk about this topic simply based off your life experiences, what makes sense and what we have observed. Here is an example below


Statement/Example 1:

Earthtank: Seeing today how the world is all about not hurting anyone’s feelings I personally disagree with how portray fat as the new beautiful. Cosmopolitan even put a fat chick on their cover. Now I am not talking about people that are fat due to medical issues, I am talking about how today parts of the media push fat as something “beautiful” or as “be happy being fat” or anything along those line. I have no problem with fat people, I just don’t like this message because it gives people the wrong idea. Being fat is NOT in any way shape or form a healthy lifestyle and therefore, we should not being telling people that it is, I am also not saying everyone needs to be a skinny model but, we should be encouraging or at the very least advising, fat people to eat healthier and have some form of activity (walking, running) as part of their daily life.


So notice what I did not do in my statement/example, I did not cite sources that speak about BMI, obesity, diabetes, blood pressure or anything else. Simple statement and its justification. Can we do that? I can’t stand how every time anyone says something someone disagrees with they immediately say “what does god say” “what study” “what’s your evidence” so let’s just talk, keep it simple. We do not have to agree and I won’t ask you to scientifically justify your position.

Here is another one

Statement/Example 2: Here’s a controversial one for you lol

Earthtank: I do not think a man can be a woman or vice versa nor can they know how it feels to be the opposite sex/gender. When a man says he is now a woman or has felt like he was a woman for a while how does he know that? Let’s assume this man is 18 years old. I used 18 as opposed to a younger age since I would assume someone at 18 has more life experience than a 7 or 12 year old and can formulate their words and thoughts a lot better. So how does a man who’s lived as a man for 18 years know what it is to be a woman? Has he ever had his period? Has he ever had the mood swings that are associated with periods? Has he been treated like a woman since birth? Does he know what it actually feels like to truly be a woman (mentally and physically)? I can go on and on but you get the idea. So when we already know the answers to all those questions are NO then, how can I (or anyone) agree that this man is now a woman because he says so? By the way, I did not even get into the biological and physical differences. If I said I identified as a cat today, would you treat and accept me as one lol? If you said yes then, I truly feel bad for you lol because how the heck do I even know what a cat feels? (By the way, there is a girl that identifies as a cat lol yes she is brain damaged imo and her bf that “accepts” it is just trying to get laid)


Again, in statement/example 2: I did not bring up any science or anything else and gave my opinion. Please do the same.



The main reason I want to “just talk” and not cite any kind of sources is because unfortunately, you can find anything you want on the internet. Which reminds me of the skit “if google was a guy” (look it up, it’s pretty funny) a girl walks in “searching” for “vaccines cause autism” he tells her that he’s found 1000s of sources that say no but a few that say yes so she takes that report and says “I knew it”. Point is whether is about vaccines, war, immigration or anything else people that want to get in a “sources war” will both end up wasting their time as both people will find what they are looking for. So let’s forget all that stuff and lets talk.

Edit to add: The point of this post is for others to make statements as well and see how things play out. Not to only reply to what this post

Edit to add:

Statement 3: Kids today are not being raised in a way that prepares them for the harsh realities and rejections of the real world when they get older. Participation trophies, no spanking, let them lead the parents and other "soft" techniques only hurt them in the long run

 

[Debater Slayer]

The main reason I want to “just talk” and not cite any kind of sources is because unfortunately, you can find anything you want on the internet.

Or perhaps because you know both of your statements are full of crap and hysterical overgeneralization with no reliable evidence to back them up.

 

[Orbit]

Bigotry disguised as dialogue....

 

[JustGeorge]

LET'S TALK!!!

No religion. No science. No survey. No research studies. No news reports. No Youtube videos. No politics. No Wikipedia (#1 source for lazy “intellectuals”). Nothing. Let’s try and talk to each other with nothing other than what we know from our life, education and experiences. What I mean is this, if I walked up to you and we started talking about any topic, let’s talk about this topic simply based off your life experiences, what makes sense and what we have observed. Here is an example below


Statement/Example 1:

Earthtank: Seeing today how the world is all about not hurting anyone’s feelings I personally disagree with how portray fat as the new beautiful. Cosmopolitan even put a fat chick on their cover. Now I am not talking about people that are fat due to medical issues, I am talking about how today parts of the media push fat as something “beautiful” or as “be happy being fat” or anything along those line. I have no problem with fat people, I just don’t like this message because it gives people the wrong idea. Being fat is NOT in any way shape or form a healthy lifestyle and therefore, we should not being telling people that it is, I am also not saying everyone needs to be a skinny model but, we should be encouraging or at the very least advising, fat people to eat healthier and have some form of activity (walking, running) as part of their daily life.


So notice what I did not do in my statement/example, I did not cite sources that speak about BMI, obesity, diabetes, blood pressure or anything else. Simple statement and its justification. Can we do that? I can’t stand how every time anyone says something someone disagrees with they immediately say “what does god say” “what study” “what’s your evidence” so let’s just talk, keep it simple. We do not have to agree and I won’t ask you to scientifically justify your position.

Here is another one

Statement/Example 2: Here’s a controversial one for you lol

Earthtank: I do not think a man can be a woman or vice versa nor can they know how it feels to be the opposite sex/gender. When a man says he is now a woman or has felt like he was a woman for a while how does he know that? Let’s assume this man is 18 years old. I used 18 as opposed to a younger age since I would assume someone at 18 has more life experience than a 7 or 12 year old and can formulate their words and thoughts a lot better. So how does a man who’s lived as a man for 18 years know what it is to be a woman? Has he ever had his period? Has he ever had the mood swings that are associated with periods? Has he been treated like a woman since birth? Does he know what it actually feels like to truly be a woman (mentally and physically)? I can go on and on but you get the idea. So when we already know the answers to all those questions are NO then, how can I (or anyone) agree that this man is now a woman because he says so? By the way, I did not even get into the biological and physical differences. If I said I identified as a cat today, would you treat and accept me as one lol? If you said yes then, I truly feel bad for you lol because how the heck do I even know what a cat feels? (By the way, there is a girl that identifies as a cat lol yes she is brain damaged imo and her bf that “accepts” it is just trying to get laid)


Again, in statement/example 2: I did not bring up any science or anything else and gave my opinion. Please do the same.



The main reason I want to “just talk” and not cite any kind of sources is because unfortunately, you can find anything you want on the internet. Which reminds me of the skit “if google was a guy” (look it up, it’s pretty funny) a girl walks in “searching” for “vaccines cause autism” he tells her that he’s found 1000s of sources that say no but a few that say yes so she takes that report and says “I knew it”. Point is whether is about vaccines, war, immigration or anything else people that want to get in a “sources war” will both end up wasting their time as both people will find what they are looking for. So let’s forget all that stuff and lets talk.

Sure, lets talk.

I don't really care who's on the cover of what, or how big or small they are, or what they're wearing. I just don't give a monkey's hindquarters. I have much bigger problems to wade through on a day to day basis than to worry about a stranger's weight.

I do care a little how they smell. I don't want to sit next to someone who smells like mildew.

Strangely, I am really bothered when people's clothes don't match. I don't say anything, because its not my business, but it drives me nuts.

As for your second point, I try to respect what other people tell me about themselves. I don't know what their background is, or what their biological make up is. I just don't know. I have no idea how their brain works, how they feel, or what its like to be them. So I'll try to address them in the manner they ask me to. I think its just common decency. And largely, other people's relationship with gender(much like other people's weight) is just flat out none of my business.

Most people realize my name's probably not George. However, I really appreciate when they call me George, because its how I asked them to address me. By someone using a label I've asked them to shows that they care if I'm comfortable or not. I like others to be comfortable. I'll address them as they've asked me to.

The world would be a better place if everyone could just 'keep their eyes on their own paper', so to speak. In other words, one should mind their own business.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

LET'S TALK!!!

No religion. No science. No survey. No research studies. No news reports. No Youtube videos. No politics. No Wikipedia (#1 source for lazy “intellectuals”). Nothing. Let’s try and talk to each other with nothing other than what we know from our life, education and experiences. What I mean is this, if I walked up to you and we started talking about any topic, let’s talk about this topic simply based off your life experiences, what makes sense and what we have observed. Here is an example below


Statement/Example 1:

Earthtank: Seeing today how the world is all about not hurting anyone’s feelings I personally disagree with how portray fat as the new beautiful. Cosmopolitan even put a fat chick on their cover. Now I am not talking about people that are fat due to medical issues, I am talking about how today parts of the media push fat as something “beautiful” or as “be happy being fat” or anything along those line. I have no problem with fat people, I just don’t like this message because it gives people the wrong idea. Being fat is NOT in any way shape or form a healthy lifestyle and therefore, we should not being telling people that it is, I am also not saying everyone needs to be a skinny model but, we should be encouraging or at the very least advising, fat people to eat healthier and have some form of activity (walking, running) as part of their daily life.


So notice what I did not do in my statement/example, I did not cite sources that speak about BMI, obesity, diabetes, blood pressure or anything else. Simple statement and its justification. Can we do that? I can’t stand how every time anyone says something someone disagrees with they immediately say “what does god say” “what study” “what’s your evidence” so let’s just talk, keep it simple. We do not have to agree and I won’t ask you to scientifically justify your position.

Here is another one

Statement/Example 2: Here’s a controversial one for you lol

Earthtank: I do not think a man can be a woman or vice versa nor can they know how it feels to be the opposite sex/gender. When a man says he is now a woman or has felt like he was a woman for a while how does he know that? Let’s assume this man is 18 years old. I used 18 as opposed to a younger age since I would assume someone at 18 has more life experience than a 7 or 12 year old and can formulate their words and thoughts a lot better. So how does a man who’s lived as a man for 18 years know what it is to be a woman? Has he ever had his period? Has he ever had the mood swings that are associated with periods? Has he been treated like a woman since birth? Does he know what it actually feels like to truly be a woman (mentally and physically)? I can go on and on but you get the idea. So when we already know the answers to all those questions are NO then, how can I (or anyone) agree that this man is now a woman because he says so? By the way, I did not even get into the biological and physical differences. If I said I identified as a cat today, would you treat and accept me as one lol? If you said yes then, I truly feel bad for you lol because how the heck do I even know what a cat feels? (By the way, there is a girl that identifies as a cat lol yes she is brain damaged imo and her bf that “accepts” it is just trying to get laid)


Again, in statement/example 2: I did not bring up any science or anything else and gave my opinion. Please do the same.



The main reason I want to “just talk” and not cite any kind of sources is because unfortunately, you can find anything you want on the internet. Which reminds me of the skit “if google was a guy” (look it up, it’s pretty funny) a girl walks in “searching” for “vaccines cause autism” he tells her that he’s found 1000s of sources that say no but a few that say yes so she takes that report and says “I knew it”. Point is whether is about vaccines, war, immigration or anything else people that want to get in a “sources war” will both end up wasting their time as both people will find what they are looking for. So let’s forget all that stuff and lets talk.

I often use Wikipedia, and I'm unashamed of that. No one who knows me would accuse me of being a "lazy intellectual."
But I see plenty of that going on your post. Typically when you seriously research a subject you take on the language you are studying. In this case, it would be obesity as that is what the condition is known. "Fat" is a layman's term, "fat chick" strongly suggests your research stopped at the cover of Cosmo. And not listening to people is the hallmark of many, none of them good, including being a lazy intellectual. You've been on here long enough you have no excuse.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I do care a little how they smell. I don't want to sit next to someone who smells like mildew.

That too I care about. Bathed in cologne or perfume is the same way. Cleanliness has a happy middle ground, and too far either way will often times stink to others.

 

[JustGeorge]

That too I care about. Bathed in cologne or perfume is the same way. Cleanliness has a happy middle ground, and too far either way will often times stink to others.

Mildew in particular bothers me. I can put up(perhaps not happily) with most other smells, but this one is troublesome for me.

I still try not to judge the person, though. I don't know what their situation is. Maybe they smell like BO. Perhaps they've been out working in the heat... Who's to know?

 

[Earthtank]

I do care a little how they smell.

My fav are the ones that smell like Chick-Fil-A

Strangely, I am really bothered when people's clothes don't match. I don't say anything, because its not my business, but it drives me nuts.

As for your second point, I try to respect what other people tell me about themselves. I don't know what their background is, or what their biological make up is. I just don't know. I have no idea how their brain works, how they feel, or what its like to be them.

Agreed and I am the same way not only what you mentioned but, I also have no idea what's going on with their personal life so its best to play it safe and try to make people feel as comfortable as you can

So I'll try to address them in the manner they ask me to

I definitely understand where you are coming from and have no problem with it. My only reply here is let's assume you disagree with what they are asking and you do not feel comfortable doing so, then what? I do not mean you are trying to be a jerk but, it's something you personally do not agree with.

Most people realize my name's probably not George

Yeah, its justGeorge, forgot already? lol

The world would be a better place if everyone could just 'keep their eyes on their own paper', so to speak. In other words, one should mind their own business.

Agreed however, isn't this why we come to these forums? I mean if everyone took the stance of its none of my business here at RF then this site would have died years ago

 

[dybmh]

Gender issues bore me, tbh. Let people define themselves...

Is big beautiful? Absolutely!

 

[Rival]

I am the best looking person on this forum.

Hey, you said no citations! I can just claim stuff.

 

[Earthtank]

I often use Wikipedia, and I'm unashamed of that.

Nor should you, people are free to use whatever sources they want

No one who knows me would accuse me of being a "lazy intellectual."

You bring up a good point, I will go back and edit my post to remove the lazy intellectual part. Thanks

Typically when you seriously research a subject you take on the language you are studying

But that's my point here, I don't want to get in to any "intellectual" discussions and cite this or that and prove this or that. I am just talking Sorry if that offends you, not the goal.

 

[Earthtank]

I am the best looking person on this forum.

Hey, you said no citations! I can just claim stuff.

Well played. Well played lol

 

[We Never Know]

Gender issues bore me, tbh. Let people define themselves...

Is big beautiful? Absolutely!

Yes let people live to be happy.
As for is big beautiful, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
However I know a guy that once said sex with overweight women was awesome. He always said they need it to so when they get it they try harder lol

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I am the best looking person on this forum.

Hey, you said no citations! I can just claim stuff.

Well fine then. No sex for you. No citations needed. Just watch it happen after I claim it. I'll cancel the male dom I hired for us. He won't be needed because you're good looking enough you can find one who will do it for us for free.

 

[JustGeorge]

My fav are the ones that smell like Chick-Fil-A

Don't know that smell. Never been there... assumed there isn't much reason for a vegetarian to stop by one, though I've heard they have good shakes.

I definitely understand where you are coming from and have no problem with it. My only reply here is let's assume you disagree with what they are asking and you do not feel comfortable doing so, then what? I do not mean you are trying to be a jerk but, it's something you personally do not agree with.

Depends on what I'm disagreeing with. My mom has some really awful clothes. Do I say "Mom, I disagree with the fact you haven't bought a new pair of shorts in 30 years, and I'm not leaving with you until you change them? " Nope. None of my business. If she asks me if I think she should wear the old pink beaters, I'll say "heck no! Gross! Buy some new shorts!" My opinion was wanted and asked for. I'll give it. If not, I'll can it.

Agreed however, isn't this why we come to these forums? I mean if everyone took the stance of its none of my business here at RF then this site would have died years ago

Honestly, that's one aspect of RF that I stay out of, for the most part. I like an exchange of ideas, but I don't enjoy "I'm right and you're wrong!" debates. They give me gas.

 

[Rival]

Well fine then. No sex for you. No citations needed. Just watch it happen after I claim it. I'll cancel the male dom I hired for us. He won't be needed because you're good looking enough you can find one who will do it for us for free.

Spoiler

 

[We Never Know]

LET'S TALK!!!

No religion. No science. No survey. No research studies. No news reports. No Youtube videos. No politics. No Wikipedia . Nothing. Let’s try and talk to each other with nothing other than what we know from our life, education and experiences. What I mean is this, if I walked up to you and we started talking about any topic, let’s talk about this topic simply based off your life experiences, what makes sense and what we have observed. Here is an example below


Statement/Example 1:

Earthtank: Seeing today how the world is all about not hurting anyone’s feelings I personally disagree with how portray fat as the new beautiful. Cosmopolitan even put a fat chick on their cover. Now I am not talking about people that are fat due to medical issues, I am talking about how today parts of the media push fat as something “beautiful” or as “be happy being fat” or anything along those line. I have no problem with fat people, I just don’t like this message because it gives people the wrong idea. Being fat is NOT in any way shape or form a healthy lifestyle and therefore, we should not being telling people that it is, I am also not saying everyone needs to be a skinny model but, we should be encouraging or at the very least advising, fat people to eat healthier and have some form of activity (walking, running) as part of their daily life.


So notice what I did not do in my statement/example, I did not cite sources that speak about BMI, obesity, diabetes, blood pressure or anything else. Simple statement and its justification. Can we do that? I can’t stand how every time anyone says something someone disagrees with they immediately say “what does god say” “what study” “what’s your evidence” so let’s just talk, keep it simple. We do not have to agree and I won’t ask you to scientifically justify your position.

Here is another one

Statement/Example 2: Here’s a controversial one for you lol

Earthtank: I do not think a man can be a woman or vice versa nor can they know how it feels to be the opposite sex/gender. When a man says he is now a woman or has felt like he was a woman for a while how does he know that? Let’s assume this man is 18 years old. I used 18 as opposed to a younger age since I would assume someone at 18 has more life experience than a 7 or 12 year old and can formulate their words and thoughts a lot better. So how does a man who’s lived as a man for 18 years know what it is to be a woman? Has he ever had his period? Has he ever had the mood swings that are associated with periods? Has he been treated like a woman since birth? Does he know what it actually feels like to truly be a woman (mentally and physically)? I can go on and on but you get the idea. So when we already know the answers to all those questions are NO then, how can I (or anyone) agree that this man is now a woman because he says so? By the way, I did not even get into the biological and physical differences. If I said I identified as a cat today, would you treat and accept me as one lol? If you said yes then, I truly feel bad for you lol because how the heck do I even know what a cat feels? (By the way, there is a girl that identifies as a cat lol yes she is brain damaged imo and her bf that “accepts” it is just trying to get laid)


Again, in statement/example 2: I did not bring up any science or anything else and gave my opinion. Please do the same.



The main reason I want to “just talk” and not cite any kind of sources is because unfortunately, you can find anything you want on the internet. Which reminds me of the skit “if google was a guy” (look it up, it’s pretty funny) a girl walks in “searching” for “vaccines cause autism” he tells her that he’s found 1000s of sources that say no but a few that say yes so she takes that report and says “I knew it”. Point is whether is about vaccines, war, immigration or anything else people that want to get in a “sources war” will both end up wasting their time as both people will find what they are looking for. So let’s forget all that stuff and lets talk.

One thing, you are abosutley correct with the internet anyone can find something that will agree with anyone. Just google it and you will find it.

 

[Earthtank]

but I don't enjoy "I'm right and you're wrong!" debates.

same which is why i dont want to turn this into a battle of sources and people can just talk. Thank you

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But that's my point here, I don't want to get in to any "intellectual" discussions and cite this or that and prove this or that. I am just talking Sorry if that offends you, not the goal.

And yet many members here will expect that because it's how debate works. If I don't have to back up or support my claims, then I am your goddess, kneel before me and keep my fed and hydrated and give me some of your money. Because I rule over you, you are my subject, my word is law. I don't have to prove this, it just is.
Go make me a ham sandwich, dude.

 

[We Never Know]

same which is why i dont want to turn this into a battle of sources and people can just talk. Thank you

Yes its would be nice if people could simply give their opinion without being told they are wrong, judged etc.
Just give opinions and discuss the why's would be nice many times without all the judgement and you're wrong especially since most opinions are based solely on the idividual, not the bible, society, science, etc.

For exampleif in my opinion dogs rule and cats suck, its my opinion solely based on my thoughts.