Liberal Christians: Why is it bigoted for Christians to believe they’re part of the true religion

[SalixIncendium]

Proselytizing maybe. I don't see how it makes them a bigot though. Bigotry implies intolerance, which isn't the case when someone just thinks they are right.

Someone claiming theirs is the One True Religion™ is be default being intolerant of anyone else's religion, and therefore a bigot.

 

[Valjean]

But is someone believing his is the one true religion necessarily intolerant of dissenters?
More likely he'd just ignore them and tend to his own affairs.

 

[SalixIncendium]

But is someone believing his is the one true religion necessarily intolerant of dissenters?
More likely he'd just ignore them and tend to his own affairs.

If that is the case, how would anyone else be aware that this person believes that theirs is the One True Religion™?

 

[Jesster]

Someone claiming theirs is the One True Religion™ is be default being intolerant of anyone else's religion, and therefore a bigot.

Not really. They just think their beliefs are true and others are false. Bigotry would imply they aren't allowing others to have differing beliefs.

 

[SinSaber]

Someone claiming theirs is the One True Religion™ is be default being intolerant of anyone else's religion, and therefore a bigot.

I dare you to tell a devout Muslim that

 

[SalixIncendium]

Not really. They just think their beliefs are true and others are false. Bigotry would imply they aren't allowing others to have differing beliefs.

I disagree. Bigotry, as I see it, and by definition, doesn't one is prohibiting different beliefs, only intolerance of them.

 

[SalixIncendium]

I dare you to tell a devout Muslim that

What makes you think I haven't?

 

[Jesster]

I disagree. Bigotry, as I see it, and by definition, doesn't one is prohibiting different beliefs, only intolerance of them.

I don't see how claiming you are right fits that definition. If there's more to it than that, maybe. I just don't see it yet based on what I've seen in this thread alone.

Am I a bigot because I think you are wrong? Are you a bigot because you think I am wrong?

 

[Valjean]

Someone claiming theirs is the One True Religion™ is be default being intolerant of anyone else's religion, and therefore a bigot.

Wouldn't that make almost every religious person a bigot?

 

[SalixIncendium]

I don't see how claiming you are right fits that definition. If there's more to it than that, maybe. I just don't see it yet based on what I've seen in this thread alone.

Am I a bigot because I think you are wrong? Are you a bigot because you think I am wrong?

Claiming one is right does not fit that definition. Claiming one is right and that everyone else is wrong without being able to substantiate it does.

 

[Father Heathen]

Wouldn't that make almost every religious person a bigot?

Or anyone politically active for that matter.

 

[Darkstorn]

when a conservative Christian says that Christianity is the one true religion, you call them bigots.

Who's "you?"

And i'd only call you a bigot based on what you said about liberal Christians vs "real" Christians in one of your other threads.

 

[Jesster]

Claiming one is right does not fit that definition. .

That's all anyone is doing when they claim their religion is the only one that is true.

Claiming one is right and that everyone else is wrong without being able to substantiate it does.

How is that different? If you are right and someone else contradicts your beliefs, of course you think they are wrong. That should be a given.

This is how you get me to side with religious people.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Wouldn't that make almost every religious person a bigot?

I suppose that would depend if almost every religious person claimed that their religion was the One True Religion™. If one is claiming their religion is the only correct religion, and that all other belief systems are wrong, then yes, by definition, that would make them a bigot.

bigot - Google Search

 

[Jesster]

I suppose that would depend if almost every religious person claimed that their religion was the One True Religion™. If one is claiming their religion is the only correct religion, and that all other belief systems are wrong, then yes, by definition, that would make them a bigot.

bigot - Google Search

Google definition (the one you linked to): a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

Calling someone's opinion wrong does not equate with being intolerant of their opinion.

 

[Valjean]

Google definition (the one you linked to): a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

Calling someone's opinion wrong does not equate with being intolerant of their opinion.

In fact, it opens the way for a lively discussion and makes fora like RF possible.

 

[Valjean]

How are we defining "tolerate?"

 

[Jesster]

How are we defining "tolerate?"

I'm assuming if they accept the google definition of one thing, they're fine with the google definition of another.

Allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one does not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Calling someone's opinion wrong does not equate with being intolerant of their opinion.

I agree with this statement.

So in your opinion, at what point does one claiming that they are right and stating that all others are wrong cross the line into intolerance? At what point, in your opinion, does this become bigotry?

 

[SalixIncendium]

I'm assuming if they accept the google definition of one thing, they're fine with the google definition of another.

I think you hit the nail on the head there. You answered my question before I posted it. Interference in beliefs would be necessary for intolerance.

So where are we drawing the line on interference? Clearly, the consensus ITT is that simply telling someone what they believe is wrong isn't being considered interference.