Life after death is a scientific FACT.

[eugenius]

So where do you think ANY "theories" came from then? Sorry, my name is not Aristotle.

Ideas, watching an apple fall from a tree, watching the earth circle the sun etc.

Claiming Noah loaded up a gigantic ship with 2 of everything is pulling something out of thin air.

 

[Runewolf1973]

Ideas, watching an apple fall from a tree, watching the earth circle the sun etc.

Claiming Noah loaded up a gigantic ship with 2 of everything is pulling something out of thin air.

Indeed! Good thing that is not what I am claiming.

 

[Riverwolf]

Our ability to think and perceive: processes for which the brain is responsible.

And those could possibly be energy.

We simply know too little about this to state either way conclusively.

 

[CarlinKnew]

Indeed! Good thing that is not what I am claiming.

But you are claiming life after death is a scientific fact, which it's not. It's a personal theory you've come up with based on a misinterpretation of the first law of thermodynamics.

 

[CarlinKnew]

And those could possibly be energy.

We simply know too little about this to state either way conclusively.

The processes of the brain can't happen without the brain.

 

[Runewolf1973]

But you are claiming life after death is a scientific fact, which it's not. It's a personal theory you've come up with based on a misinterpretation of the first law of thermodynamics.

It IS a scientific fact. My grandmother died...I am still alive. Life exists after death. Just kidding.
Life always continues on in some way shape or form. It is my theory that that energy that was once a living person then died, changed form, and that is how there is the potential for life to reappear again. It never really disappeared to begin with. The energy was always there, it just changed form.

 

[Riverwolf]

The processes of the brain can't happen without the brain.

Certainly not. But is it a fact that "awareness" is 100% a process of the brain? Can we say that when we don't even know what "awareness" is?

 

[CarlinKnew]

Certainly not. But is it a fact that "awareness" is 100% a process of the brain? Can we say that when we don't even know what "awareness" is?

What is "awareness" other than perception and thought? Perception and thought are processes of the brain.

 

[Runewolf1973]

Yes, we change form by decomposing. Our brains, which are responsible for our awareness, decompose along with the rest of our bodies. Energy and life are entirely different.

So what are you saying? If life is not just another form of energy what else could it possibly be? I don't believe in the supernatural, do you?

 

[CarlinKnew]

It IS a scientific fact. My grandmother died...I am still alive. Life exists after death. Just kidding.

Life always continues on in some way shape or form. It is my theory that that energy that was once a living person then died, changed form, and that is how there is the potential for life to reappear again. It never really disappeared to begin with. The energy was always there, it just changed form.

But that's not scientific at all, that's just your personal belief.

 

[CarlinKnew]

So what are you saying? If life is not just another form of energy what else could it possibly be? I don't believe in the supernatural, do you?

It is energy that cannot be destroyed, not life. The biological processes and chemical reactions that are responsible for life require energy, but life itself is not energy. When those processes stop: the individual's life ends, and new processes start to happen, such as decomposition.

 

[Riverwolf]

What is "awareness" other than perception and thought? Perception and thought are processes of the brain.

How are they processes? If I remember correctly, these processes are electronic in nature, and that is energy. It doesn't decompose with the body.

 

[Runewolf1973]

What is "awareness" other than perception and thought? Perception and thought are processes of the brain.

Yes, energy processes.

 

[Riverwolf]

Yes, energy processes.

Part energy, part chemical.

 

[CarlinKnew]

Yes, energy processes.

Processes that require energy. The processes stop, but energy isn't destroyed.

 

[Runewolf1973]

It is energy that cannot be destroyed, not life. The biological processes and chemical reactions that are responsible for life require energy, but life itself is not energy. When those processes stop: the individual's life ends, and new processes start to happen, such as decomposition.

If something that requires energy, but is not itself a form of energy, then what it?

 

[Riverwolf]

Processes that require energy. The processes stop, but energy isn't destroyed.

Right. What happens to that energy?

It changes form.

Now, does that energy retain a form of "awareness" that we cannot comprehend? Possibly. (I personally doubt it )

 

[CarlinKnew]

If something that requires energy, but is not itself a form of energy, then what it?

It's a process that requires energy!

I thought this thread would've died after Halvcyon's post, he explained it perfectly right here:

It depends whether you would consider energy released as heat, or the chemical energy being consumed by bacteria and worms as life, I don't. Sure the energy gets recycled into other forms, but not in a way that preserves your memories or individual nature nor necessarily any biochemical reactions.

 

[Runewolf1973]

Processes that require energy. The processes stop, but energy isn't destroyed.

To say that the processes stop is to say that energy stops being energy. I don't think that is scientifically possible. Energy can only change form, not cease to be energy.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Part energy, part chemical.

Now your getting somewhere.