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Life Begins at Conception
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Obvious troll is obvious.
Venatoris
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lol, couldn't help myself. sorry.
I think I see a little contradictory confusion here. did the "other" birth the baby or choose abortion, can't do both wioth the same baby. Birth it, abort it; two choices, one selection.
Wrong. nations have been destroyed because its citizens ignored every command of God and ignored every warning sign of a pending judgment for infractions committed in ignorance.
Does a woman have choice? Of course she does, like "Hey bozo, keep you hands above the waist." THAT'S the free exercise of choice.
Abortion? THAT's MURDER.
HonestJoe
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Do what I say, not what I do?
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angellous_evangellous
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For whatever it's worth, the early Christians used the same biblical references as modern apologists do to build their case for life at conception and abortion as murder.
Examples: http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/christianity-dir/48945-early-christians-against-abortion.html
Examples: http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/christianity-dir/48945-early-christians-against-abortion.html
McBell
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angellous_evangellous
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McBell
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You start your reply with "wrong" yet do not offer anything to show that it is wrong.
Perhaps you need to take a basic sex ed class.
See, believe it or not the hands falling below the waist do not result in pregnancy.
Just so you know.
Not in the USA.
Your false dichotomy is nothing more than an attempt at appeal to emotion.
Perhaps you would like to try again?
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angellous_evangellous
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It also hasn't been considered murder in any known civilization. Ever.
But there have been laws about hitting a woman and causing her to miscarry, but that's a different story.
So what are you saying? Do you think I do not live according to my principles'?
What are you accusing me of?
Based upon what?
Read my post on abortion.
Great! All those girls who allowed it to start there will be happy to know they have a champion of their virtue. "That's o.k. girls, nothing will follow..."
NOPE! Appeal is to logic, as in "If you start here...you may well end up there..."
You start with serios petting, you may well end up pregnant. Or didn't your MOTHER TELL you THE BASICS OF SEX ED?
That's because it has never been the national pasttime of any nation before.
Now it is considered the new "birth control." Abort!
Not your body or your baby. You do not know the circumstances nor does anyone have to explain themselves to you. They will decide with their doctor not with you.
Ahh is that what happened with the Mayans? Which god are you on about? Which command? No god has ever been revealed to me.
Perhaps your problem with the obvious logic could stem from your acceptance of a god and basing your decisions on a series of rationalizations forced upon you by accepting said fantastical world. Compound that with the fact that you reject every other god humanity has at one time embraced with the fact that you couldn't possibly know of every other god and never mind that acceptance of all historical gods while impossible would also result in utter nonsensical contradiction and you have your argument?
Further searching for an answer or the morality of an abortion is not your goal as you have already decided on the answer and are basing your acceptance and reason on an ideology and concept which is personally to you not even up for debate.
You don't even have the freedom to actually think about the subject reasonably because of the framework you are attempting to work within in order to discuss it. The answer was thought out and answered based on whatever religious framework you have based your life on and you personally actually have nothing to do with it. You have nothing new or interesting to say nor can you even attempt to do so because you can't try by your own design.
Ultimately I find most people with their "ignore god doomsday conspiracy theorys" are reality challenged and value their personally accepted fairy tale AFTERLIFE rather then this real LIFE they share with the rest of us.
Placing their value and efforts towards insuring they get into their afterlife is most of the time a conflict of interest with doing well and striving to do right in this life.
So I would be skeptical of your argument anyways since I care more about doing well by the people and myself in this real life and nothing about empty promises of eternal life be it an eternity of bliss or one of suffering as so many religions threaten us with.
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HonestJoe
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No, it was an admittedly flippant reference to you believing in a god who kills and destroys himself on one hand but condemns killing and destroying on the other. Hence, "do as I say, not as I do".
McBell
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Where is it?
Nothing will follow unless the girls allow it.
WTF does this have to do with your attempting to elicit an emotional reaction by telling lies about the definition of murder?
McBell
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Wow, you just cannot help your self, can you?
Do you have even one argument against abortion that does not use a logical fallacy as its foundation?
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angellous_evangellous
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Yeah, it is worse. The alternatives are infanticide and exposure, both of which are practiced today all over the world, and it is ignored almost completely by every nation.
When even a mother doesn't want her newborn, nobody else cares.
Welcome to earth.
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